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Dan Belcher

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Frustrated
« on: May 09, 2008, 12:06:41 AM »
Man, PBA Experience league patterns can be tough sometimes when you're a speed-dominant player.

Last night on the Cheetah, I just could not get the ball to recover from outside very well.  My 4000 sanded Total NV was strong enough to come back from the 2-3 board area, but was prone to coming in light and was very speed sensitive.  Everything else (stronger drilled Awesome Revs, weaker drilled Special Agent, Rico drilled Eraser Banshee) didn't have enough reaction off the dry to come back.  With those balls, I had to point the ball toward the pocket, and this left me with NO margin for error.  One board right, I left the 2-8 (and I missed the 2-8 every single time I shot at it last night, ouch)

Basically, I just had to grind out the first two games (167, 162) and wait for the lanes to open up some.  I was able to keep my speed up and get just enough reaction to get near the pocket the last two games for 200 and 222, and I wasn't even happy with those games since I missed a couple easy spares.

Every advice I read about the Cheetah talks about controlling the over-hook basically.  I fight the exact opposite problem -- I have trouble finding hook on it.  On other patterns, I have a little more room if I try to get the ball in, but the Cheetah at my house just punishes you if you have your breakpoint anywhere inside of the 4 board.  And going slow is NOT my game.  I tried slowing my ball speed from the 16.5-17mph bracket (Qubica speed) to 15mph, but my timing got all out of whack and I could not hit my mark or get anything on the ball at the bottom of the swing, which just created more problems.

Any other thoughts?

 

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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2008, 10:40:04 AM »
The Cheetah is the shortest pattern but also has the highest voulme.  The Traber brothers excel on Cheetah, one being speed dominant and one being of little hand but very accurate.  Should be something out there for you if you can get the ball to read the mid lane.

I'm rev dominant with slow speed now try that on Cheetah and tell me which style has problems on Cheetah.  
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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2008, 11:09:50 AM »
A few years back I now remember Mika looked very sweet bowling a 300 on Cheetah!  He has similar specs as you!

Just annhilating the shot.

If I remember right he used this

Stinger Lo Flare Particle
 He had it drilled if memory serves me right with the pin down and slightly out from ring and cg near grip center.  About a 105 degree, theoretical mass bias in track!  

SWEET.

We had a local player with similar specs go to a regional on cheetah and he took a copy of Mika's and he took a Victory SPT drilled pin next to ring and MB strong and a reaction enhancing weighhole(1/2 inch pitch out).  The Victory SPT was at 1000 with polish.

He said both of above looked good in practice but he went with his more familiar Victory and had a wonderful first time performance.

Cheetah, shorter but high volume!

REgards,

luckylefty
PS I agree with the post above try high revs low speed on cheetah...not fun either!
PPS Walter Ray often puts a blog on his experiences on his web site seems he uses a lot of 800 and 1000 on this pattern.  Similar specs to yours also!
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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2008, 01:21:36 PM »
For me our first week was also the Cheetah. I practiced the day before on it playing a little inside using the 16 - 17 boards for my mark and the break point at around 8-10, anything past that was OB, inside 10 was in the nose, or crossing over as shown in my short video I posted. When league night came, I ended up playing up 4-5 boards with for me was good success. I used my LevRG OOB pin left of ring slightly under with w/hole,controllable but speed sensitive on this pattern for sure, then finished with my Awesome Hook, OOB pin under bridge,1-3 boards right of the LevRG and same break point at around 3. So far I'm liking what I'm seeing out of these balls, first time with them on a REAL shot.LOL.. Looking forward to seeing how they handle the Shark pattern in 2 weeks. Middle Road past week, Route 66 this week, then the Shark. So far so good, just got to keep things together, and incorperate what I've been working on so hard when league night comes along. It can be tough, for me thats what I like, what I need to keep me focused. Good luck.
Sorry for rambling.

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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2008, 01:25:03 PM »
I don't do this stuff all the time myself....but....from what I see when the guys go to a regional for Shark they do not bring the same stuff they bring to a Cheetah tourney....

REgards,

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