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DukeHarding

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Full roller to non-full roller?
« on: April 12, 2009, 03:18:32 AM »
One of my teammates has asked me to help him change from a full-roller to a 3/4 roller. (on edit: He averages 200-205, THS)

I switched back in the 70s.

I can't remember how I did it.

Someone had tried to help him switch by wearing a wrist brace, which I don't think is the answer.

Would appreciate any input from BR members...

Thanks, guys.

and Happy Easter.

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Edited on 4/12/2009 11:35 AM

 

tenpinspro

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Re: Full roller to non-full roller?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2009, 03:01:51 PM »
Hey Duke,

The full roller release is typically achieved from having our hand in a suitcased position as it passes our legs/body but our hand will rotate "clockwise" (similar to a backup motion) thru release to achieve this track.

To help a bowler change this track, have his hand stay behind the ball as it passes his legs/body but now have him turn his hand "counter-clockwise" thru release to where his palm is facing the left wall when completed (aka handshake).

You may need to double check his thumb pitches in the ball to make sure they are coinciding with the counter clockwise motion (palm pitch or right lateral if he's RH).  Feel free to pm me if you need, took many in the 80's from full roller to semi...and Happy Easter to you too sir.
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Jock

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Re: Full roller to non-full roller?
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2009, 10:07:23 AM »
Yeah, Ricks right.  

I am (or was) in the process of trying it.  I'm a full roller, certainly not with a "suitcase" release but anyhow.  You definately have to change thumb pitches and as I don't have a ball driller "on hand" (so to speak) (my nearest ball driller is over 300 Kms away!) throwing my "full roller" drilled balls was ripping my thumb apart, I have had to give up the experiment for the moment.  

I was trying it because I thought that no pro bowls like this but still this year, as a full roller, I've averaged the highest I ever have (220).  It was giving me another challenge but until I can get close to a ball driller for a while to experiment with thumb pitch changes, I'll have to let it go for now.

Edited on 4/14/2009 10:08 AM
Ive upped my average, so up yours!

DukeHarding

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Re: Full roller to non-full roller?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2009, 10:15:49 AM »
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Yeah, Ricks right.  

I am (or was) in the process of trying it.  I'm a full roller, certainly not with a "suitcase" release but anyhow.  You definately have to change thumb pitches and as I don't have a ball driller "on hand" (so to speak) (my nearest ball driller is over 300 Kms away!) throwing my "full roller" drilled balls was ripping my thumb apart, I have had to give up the experiment for the moment.  

I was trying it because I thought that no pro bowls like this but still this year, as a full roller, I've averaged the highest I ever have (220).  It was giving me another challenge but until I can get close to a ball driller for a while to experiment with thumb pitch changes, I'll have to let it go for now.

Edited on 4/14/2009 10:08 AM


Jock,
I'm meeting with my buddy at Lyle Zike's center, and have him videotaped, and talk to Lyle. We bowled last night, and I was kidding him about his wanting to change his ball roll. He bowls 3 games a week, is down froma 210 average a few years ago to 203...I asked him if he was planning on getting his PBA card or bowl tournaments, get serious about bowling?

I don't think it will help him much, as he doesn't practice. Maybe changing his ball roll will make him practice a little more, which will help his game.
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