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Critique my video
« on: July 24, 2004, 10:28:15 PM »
I said critique not criticize.
The file is kind of large (7.7M).
I know there are some things that aren't very good like:
My follow through goes to the left, my first 4 steps are very short,
and I come around the ball to early, but I am working on the follow through and staying behind the ball longer but not the footwork cause I tried very hard for a month to no avail.
These were taken over 4 games with 3 other bowlers so that is why the shot line is varied.

http://home.mchsi.com/~s-cross-7-28-71/collage.mov  
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Re: Critique my video
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2004, 05:28:08 PM »
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I'm not one who should be giving hints, but just let me say that this is the best video that I have seen posted on BR.  

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I am sure you are talking about video quality and not bowling quality
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Re: Critique my video
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2004, 05:35:23 PM »
You basically have a two-step approach.  Your first "step" is a series of stutter steps, waiting for the ball to start falling from the top of your backswing, and then you lunge into your release and slide step.  I think you need to fix your footwork to make any significant progress.

You're also wrapping the ball behind your back, which is part of your problem with coming around it too soon, and not being able to stay behind the ball.  Focus on pushing the ball straight forward, not to the right.

A good coach could probably fix you fairly easily, if you're willing to see your scores drop for a while.  By "good", I mean someone like Ron Clifton or Dr. Jeff Briggs, not your local pro shop guy.
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Re: Critique my video
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2004, 06:50:06 PM »
Cool!!! I plan to put videos up on my sons site.
I was trying to figure what format would be best.

I registered his domain name and parked it at my sight, nothing there yet but 2 photos of the same thing.
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Re: Critique my video
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2004, 09:09:56 PM »
My son went to a coaching school, they videoed him and one thing they did was watch his head, weird thing. They had stuff to make a line somehow and guy siad he should try to keep his head level.

He likes to watch old videos where he did well to see if he changed anything since. Hang on to your old videos and watch your improvements.

When we videoed me I saw why I got back aches so often, boy did I twist at the hips rather than bend my knees. Really weird form.

One bad thing with the coaching thing, he learned too much at once. Went back to the same guy a year later, guy told him he had too much in his head. Same thing mom told him for months!! His game actually went down a lot for a while because he tried too many new things at once. Knowledge is great but too much at once can be a killer.

I wish I could caoch him. Last tournament I watched him struggle, I said to my daughter and hubby, watch his release form, it's off but I don't know why. We watched his appraoch, I looked at my daughter, that's his good form before the ball hit, Strike!! Good form is so basic and essential.

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Re: Critique my video
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2004, 11:08:49 PM »
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Cool!!! I plan to put videos up on my sons site.
I was trying to figure what format would be best.

I registered his domain name and parked it at my sight, nothing there yet but 2 photos of the same thing.
www.dckramer.com


I use the software that came with my Sony video camera to tranfer from the camera to the computer using .avi because it is an uncompressed format then I use Screenblast Sonic Forge Deluxe to convert it to Quick Time .mov 3Mbps video. This gives me the best quality 720X480 to size ratio 22 seconds=7.7MB
same video in 640X480 .avi is 78.6MB and 640X480 .mpg is 24.3MB

All forms of compression cause some darkening of the video so I am in the process of playing with settings to try and get rid of the darkening effect.
Camera and software are new toys so not much progress yet.
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Re: Critique my video
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2004, 11:26:26 PM »
We played your video slow motion, son didn't read other posts. This is his thoughts.

Work on keeping the follow through and keep the hand up to the side of your head, looked like you turned the ball a bit too much instead of going through the ball and having the follow through beside your head.
He saw your arm go left and to the right instead of follow through to the target. It will keep you more consistent if you follow through to the target.

This is based upon the back view. If that was normal for you this advice may help.

Saw you had good balance at the line, good bowlers like Tommy Delutz practice to stay solid with the balance until the ball hits the pins or target.


Mom here, I noticed you keep your arm out to the side like my son when he's doing well. Slow motion helped.

Hope this helps, Good luck and have fun!

One last thought from mom, advice given from one bowler may work well, advice from another may not. Learn who's advice works best for you.

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Re: Critique my video
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2004, 11:52:41 PM »
ProudMama

This is not my norm. I normally follow through much straighter but have a tendency to have my follow through go to the left when I am trying to get the ball to slide deeper by getting max axis rotation. When I am really in the grove my follow through sometime causes my pointer finger to hit the right side of the bill of my hat.

I could solve this tendency if I would buy a ball for these conditions where I have to alter my form to get the desired length, but I figured that eventually I would be able to do it with out the bad follow through, I now think that if I keep it up it will be programed into my muscle memory and I will have big problems.

I also try and stay solid at the line but not til the ball gets all the way to the deck more like half way.

Thanks for the comments and I don't take everyone's advice but I try and keep an open mind.
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Re: Critique my video
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2004, 12:01:11 AM »
Not trying to be mean, but why don't you just show us your "norm"?  Every reply posted you said stuff was different than what you do normally......well, you should just show us a "normal" vid.....

Just some friendly advice.
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Re: Critique my video
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2004, 01:48:17 AM »
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ProudMama
I could solve this tendency if I would buy a ball for these conditions where I have to alter my form to get the desired length, but I figured that eventually I would be able to do it with out the bad follow through, I now think that if I keep it up it will be programed into my muscle memory and I will have big problems.




My son simply watched the video, he didn't read the post. Re-reading your post I did see you mentioned some of the things he spotted.

If I understand this part right, that is my son's priority. He tries to buy bowls drilled for different patterns and different ball types so he can stick with his basic form and not get radical changing form, but that's the expensive way.
A ball rep told me a good bowler can make one ball do anything they want. This may be true but at what cost to the body? If you're throwing weird form to do that it's more work on the body, back, wrist, whatever if it's something unusal.
Some bowlers scuff and polish the heck out of a few balls trying to get them to do what they want, he'd rather have different types. But it is a chore dragging them all or deciding which ones to take.
He's still living at home, gets kidded about it for his age but he has money to invest in his dream that way. We couldn't pay for our kids to do the college thingy, but bowling was always his dream.

Heck ma and pa met at the bowling alley. Ma used to beat Pa but then along came the kids and we couldn't afford for ma to bowl.

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Re: Critique my video
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2004, 07:07:03 PM »
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Not trying to be mean, but why don't you just show us your "norm"?  Every reply posted you said stuff was different than what you do normally......well, you should just show us a "normal" vid.....

Just some friendly advice.
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I plan to just haven't had time to do the editing yet and I wanted to post
this one first because I need more help with my B game than my A game.
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