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Title: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: Walking E on January 26, 2017, 05:16:36 PM
...before any proposed tariffs kick in and the prices jump 20%!  :o
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: charlest on January 26, 2017, 06:55:00 PM
...before any proposed tariffs kick in and the prices jump 20%!  :o

If that happens maybe Trump will cause Brunswick to move back to Michigan
(I knew there was a positive side to this disaster.)
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: bowlingman817 on January 26, 2017, 07:13:35 PM
Was always curious what the profit margin was for Brunswick compared to other the companies  in the US on their high end equipment.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 26, 2017, 09:29:54 PM
If all the other US companies can do it right here in the states and make a profit then Brunswick can too. I hope the tariffs get them back where they should be.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: CoorZero on January 26, 2017, 09:43:57 PM
Nah, they're not going to go and build another another new factory. That's why they moved that portion of their operation to Mexico in the first place.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: ignitebowling on January 26, 2017, 09:47:11 PM
Brunswick built the newest up to date plant in bowling and people are still crying about where it's made.

Only bowling shoes, bags, and all other bowling equipment can be built or made every where else. Oh and plastic balls. That's also acceptable.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: northface28 on January 26, 2017, 10:19:08 PM
Brunswick built the newest up to date plant in bowling and people are still crying about where it's made.

Only bowling shoes, bags, and all other bowling equipment can be built or made every where else. Oh and plastic balls. That's also acceptable.

They took our jobs!!!!!!
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: Snakster on January 27, 2017, 06:19:06 AM
Brunswick built the newest up to date plant in bowling and people are still crying about where it's made.

Only bowling shoes, bags, and all other bowling equipment can be built or made every where else. Oh and plastic balls. That's also acceptable.

They took our jobs!!!!!!

TERK AR JERBS!!!!
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: northface28 on January 27, 2017, 07:03:20 AM
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Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: ignitebowling on January 27, 2017, 07:24:49 AM
Exactly.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: Good Times Good Times on January 27, 2017, 08:33:47 AM
Exactly.

+1
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: billdozer on January 27, 2017, 09:09:10 AM
Never thought about this angle before.  Do u guys it'll hurt Brunswick if/when a big tax goes into effect?
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 27, 2017, 09:27:13 AM
Never thought about this angle before.  Do u guys it'll hurt Brunswick if/when a big tax goes into effect?

Initial hit to move back to the US and then deal with the same profit margins that others deal with.  I know that EBI and Storm/RG are flourishing but smaller companies like Motiv can make it work.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: billdozer on January 27, 2017, 10:00:37 AM
Never thought about this angle before.  Do u guys it'll hurt Brunswick if/when a big tax goes into effect?

Initial hit to move back to the US and then deal with the same profit margins that others deal with.  I know that EBI and Storm/RG are flourishing but smaller companies like Motiv can make it work.

There's no way they'd move back..

Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: northface28 on January 27, 2017, 10:05:02 AM
Never thought about this angle before.  Do u guys it'll hurt Brunswick if/when a big tax goes into effect?

Easy to flourish when you're moving products.

Initial hit to move back to the US and then deal with the same profit margins that others deal with.  I know that EBI and Storm/RG are flourishing but smaller companies like Motiv can make it work.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 27, 2017, 10:31:39 AM
Never thought about this angle before.  Do u guys it'll hurt Brunswick if/when a big tax goes into effect?

Easy to flourish when you're moving products.

I think they lost a portion of their customer base with the Mexico move. Between Brunswick, DV8, and Radical... they should be able to figure something out. They aren't new to the industry.

Initial hit to move back to the US and then deal with the same profit margins that others deal with.  I know that EBI and Storm/RG are flourishing but smaller companies like Motiv can make it work.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: CoorZero on January 27, 2017, 11:00:06 AM
I think they lost a portion of their customer base with the Mexico move. Between Brunswick, DV8, and Radical... they should be able to figure something out. They aren't new to the industry.

Sure they did. But the money they saved in building a new plant in Mexico along with the money saved on a yearly basis by running the plant in Mexico likely more than made up for it. They're not building another new one in the US. That's not even a possibility. And without that they're not moving the manufacturing part of their business back to the US either.

I'm more concerned with what will happen to the production side if/when Brunswick wants to separate themselves from that side of the business. I thought something like that was reported a while back. Will Brunswick DV8, and Radical simply cease to exist or will someone else step in and buy them?
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: Kegler300800 on January 27, 2017, 11:56:14 AM
>> Will Brunswick DV8, and Radical simply cease to exist or will someone else step in and buy them?

I won't miss them. Good riddance.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: CoorZero on January 27, 2017, 12:32:18 PM
>> Will Brunswick DV8, and Radical simply cease to exist or will someone else step in and buy them?

I won't miss them. Good riddance.

I mean, my guess would be that somebody would swoop in and buy them. The newest and most up-to-date bowling ball production plant isn't going to sit there and collect dust. Will just be very interesting to see what ends up happening... if I'm remembering what I read correctly at all.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: bonez44s on January 27, 2017, 01:15:38 PM
So Brunswick will loose $10 a ball and they will still be making $90 a ball they will be fine. Depending on where the material is made for making bowling balls, all company's may be in the same spot. Is this material made in USA or is it IMPORTED. Just because you build it here doesn't mean you don't buy material overseas. 
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: billdozer on January 27, 2017, 01:43:59 PM
NF how are they moving product? Most of the online guys put the brand new releases in the close out section.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: WOWZERS on January 27, 2017, 01:52:15 PM
A little over 10 years ago I would have NEVER considered Columbia just being another stamp put on a ball in Hopkinsville Kentucky. Can anyone envision the day that all Brunswick is a name stamped on a ball rolling off the line in Utah?
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: charlest on January 27, 2017, 03:26:40 PM
A little over 10 years ago I would have NEVER considered Columbia just being another stamp put on a ball in Hopkinsville, Kentucky. Can anyone envision the day that all Brunswick is a name stamped on a ball rolling off the line in Utah?

Bite your tongue! :)

(Aside, I think Ebonite Int'l has done a good job of "allowing" Columbia, Hammer and Track to be their ball companies.
I'd rather Brunswick continue using their current manner of creating coverstocks, rather than use Utah's coverstocks.)
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 27, 2017, 03:31:38 PM
Motiv coverstocks would be a better match for Brunswick than Utah.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: charlest on January 27, 2017, 03:57:56 PM
Motiv coverstocks would be a better match for Brunswick than Utah.

Hmmm, that makes me think what if Lane#1's diamond cores used Motiv coverstocks ....
Can you imagine the Cherry Buzzsaw's double diamond wrapped in the Shock's coverstock or the Forza GT's coverstock?
Or the Venom Cbra's coverstock wrapped around the original Diamond core from the Silver Diamond ball?
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: tkkshop on January 27, 2017, 05:25:53 PM
Motiv coverstocks would be a better match for Brunswick than Utah.

Hmmm, that makes me think what if Lane#1's diamond cores used Motiv coverstocks ....
Can you imagine the Cherry Buzzsaw's double diamond wrapped in the Shock's coverstock of the Forza GT's coverstock?
Or the Venom Cbra's coverstock wrapped around the original Diamond core from the Silver Diamond ball?
this man deserves a cookie!
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: northface28 on January 27, 2017, 06:03:36 PM
NF how are they moving product? Most of the online guys put the brand new releases in the close out section.


I meant the other companies are flourishing, not Brunswick.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 27, 2017, 07:51:32 PM
Motiv coverstocks would be a better match for Brunswick than Utah.

Hmmm, that makes me think what if Lane#1's diamond cores used Motiv coverstocks ....
Can you imagine the Cherry Buzzsaw's double diamond wrapped in the Shock's coverstock or the Forza GT's coverstock?
Or the Venom Cbra's coverstock wrapped around the original Diamond core from the Silver Diamond ball?

My two Bomb core Lane#1's from the Brunswick pour era still roll great.
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: jimjames on January 29, 2017, 10:42:42 AM
Never thought about this angle before.  Do u guys it'll hurt Brunswick if/when a big tax goes into effect?

Initial hit to move back to the US and then deal with the same profit margins that others deal with.  I know that EBI and Storm/RG are flourishing but smaller companies like Motiv can make it work.
Don't put the cart before the horse!
Title: Re: Git yer Brunswick, Radical and DV8 Equipment Now
Post by: six pack on January 30, 2017, 06:19:51 AM
Motiv coverstocks would be a better match for Brunswick than Utah.

Hmmm, that makes me think what if Lane#1's diamond cores used Motiv coverstocks ....
Can you imagine the Cherry Buzzsaw's double diamond wrapped in the Shock's coverstock or the Forza GT's coverstock?
Or the Venom Cbra's coverstock wrapped around the original Diamond core from the Silver Diamond ball?

at 300 bucks a ball,No Thanks.
I think the biggest reason L1 isn't or never grew to it's potential was the sticker shock.