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JJKinGA

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Golf headed the way of bowling?
« on: April 21, 2014, 10:53:33 AM »
I just read this article about concern in golf for losing players due to low scoring and active plans to increase the scoring pace...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/19/sports/golf/in-a-hole-golf-considers-digging-a-wider-one.html?_r=0

Obviously they never looked to see what easier scoring conditions have done to help grow bowling.

Doesn't anyone try and promote being great at soemthing difficult?  Doesn't anyone promote the experience rather than a false sense of accomplishment?

If I can't enjoy bowling or golf for what it is, will I really enjoy it more if it is easier?
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JustRico

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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2014, 10:56:34 AM »
That's not the intent...the intent is in accommodating anyone that wants to play and allow them to participate in a timely manner...I will not play on a weekend due to the timeframe of a 6hr round
They said something similar when they added tee boxes to accommodate different levels of ability...
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MrNickRo

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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2014, 11:43:08 AM »
I think the larger holes are a great way to speed up play.  Sometimes, golf and bowling are compared to closely on this site.  They are wildly different sports, and golf is not losing popularity in any way.

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avabob

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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2014, 12:13:01 PM »
Actually more people quit golf each year than quit bowling.  The difficulty comparing the two is that golf counts all its recreational players, and bowling normally only counts USBC members in its attrition rate.  Golf really took a beating during the economic downturn.  Too many course built in housing developments, and both tanked.  Twenty years ago I had to call early on a Tuesday morning to get a Saturday tee time at any of our nice muni courses.  Today I can call on Friday
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JustRico

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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2014, 01:22:42 PM »
Right and with golf anyone can play basically at any time...if I want to go play I don't need an index to do so but bowling tries to really key in on league bowling
This is why I get tired of hearing bowling is broke or needs to be fixed...the purity of the game is fine...it's just not structured as it was 20-30 yrs ago
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kidlost2000

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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2014, 01:45:07 PM »
I rarely see golfers master the first 450 yards in two strokes only to 3 putt every time. Putting is the easiest thing to practice anywhere.

Most people struggle understanding how important it is to play from the fairway consistently to greatly improve scores. Too many people lose strokes  or make things worst trying to play one in a million golf shots like they are pros.

Most people don't seem to notice how much time pros spend reading the greens before they putt.
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Mighty Fish

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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2014, 02:19:30 PM »
A mythical look to the future as to what could happen if golf follows in the "direction" of modern-day bowling ...

http://www.examiner.com/article/a-tragic-view-of-two-sports-future-will-golf-follow-bowling-s-fatal-path
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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2014, 03:45:27 PM »
Fish,

That is the stupidest article I've ever read.  They aren't trying to reinvent the game, just appeal to more people.  Golf is hard for most people.  You could make every hole 350 yards and straight and most people still couldn't break 100.

This is golf's answer to the smaller courts, small rackets and slower balls for kids in tennis. 

The big thing is golf could do this at the same time, on the same greens as a traditional cup using different colored flags. 
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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2014, 03:46:24 PM »
Golf, bowling, or anything that we do for recreation, will suffer in a prolonged economy slump.  The longer one goes without something, the less that "something" will be missed.  We will find other things to do with our time.  When push comes to shove, we will meet our needs before addressing our wants.


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JustRico

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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2014, 03:57:36 PM »
If you suck at putting 9 out of 10 times, if you miss with a traditional 4.5" hole you will more than likely miss with a larger cup

Look at bowling...what is the actual percentage of 200+ average bowlers? 5%? So the 'easy' lane conditions haven't help the other 90+% of bowlers

Bowling is not broken...it is an minimal amts mentality it is
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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2014, 04:43:15 PM »
Sounds to me like golf is already worried about the decline and are trying to come up with ways to keep people involved. 

A question to pose it those in the know, if we had not seen a change in ball technology and in lane patterns and the scoring pace remained the same as in the 70's and 80's how would that have kept league bowling numbers up?

Mark
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JustRico

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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2014, 05:06:23 PM »
The scoring environment is not what chased bowlers away...
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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2014, 05:44:44 PM »
I agree with you but others think bowling could have stayed the same if scoring was more difficult.


Quote from: JustRico on April 21, 2014, 05:06:23 PM
The scoring environment is not what chased bowlers away...
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Mighty Fish

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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2014, 06:31:15 PM »
Quote from: itsallaboutme on April 21, 2014, 03:45:27 PM
Fish,

That is the stupidest article I've ever read.
Dear itsallaboutme:

Thanks for your comment, but isn't it obvious that the column wasn't SUPPOSED to be serious (and certainly not fact-based)?
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Golf headed the way of bowling?
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2014, 10:55:07 PM »
Only 10% of golfers can break 90.  Nothing to worry about.

Regards,

Luckylefty
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