Neither.

Too many people don't understand that hitting the 1-2 or 1-3 doesn't mean it was a good shot

Neither.

Too many people don't understand that hitting the 1-2 or 1-3 doesn't mean it was a good shot

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 Hitting the “pocket” does NOT = thrown well.

 Too many think it does.

 Why do you think you see top pros cringing at shots that “look” fine to you?

 It’s because they know they threw it incorrectly.

 It may even hit the pocket, but that is not a sign they threw it right.

Quote from: Juggernaut on March 06, 2019, 08:32:11 AM

Quote from: SVstar34 on March 05, 2019, 11:45:05 PM

Neither.

Too many people don't understand that hitting the 1-2 or 1-3 doesn't mean it was a good shot

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THIS
X infinity

 Hitting the “pocket” does NOT = thrown well.

 Too many think it does.

 Why do you think you see top pros cringing at shots that “look” fine to you?

 It’s because they know they threw it incorrectly.

 It may even hit the pocket, but that is not a sign they threw it right.

Agree with all the above.  I'll also add that very few players actually watch their ball go thru the pins and how it's going thru the pins.  I had a teammate a few weeks ago leave a "pocket" 7-10 on the 12th ball of a potential 300 game.  I was recording it for our house honor board.  Visually in the moment it looked like a decent shot, but when playing it back in slow motion as the ball went thru the pins it was actually a horrible shot. 

I tell people all the time "Just because you hit the head pin, doesn't mean you should strike"  LOL

Dude went front 11 then pocket on the 12th ball.  I dunno if "horrible shot" is the right words to describe it.

Hitting the pocket, does not necessarily mean a well thrown ball per se.  But, leaving a pocket 7-10 does not
mean a badly thrown ball.   Indeed, many  pocket 7-10s are well thrown balls.  Why the split is left gets in to geometry and physics. 

Hitting the pocket, does not necessarily mean a well thrown ball per se.  But, leaving a pocket 7-10 does not
mean a badly thrown ball.   Indeed, many  pocket 7-10s are well thrown balls.  Why the split is left gets in to geometry and physics.

Pocket splits usually tell me I have too strong of ball in my hand and or missed the transition at least when occurs on a good delivery.  Yeah slow learner.

Pocket 7-10 2as very uncommon in the old lacquer era.  It started to become very common when urethane lane finish cane out, and stripping lanes frequenly became more common.   As oil carried down from the end of yhe buff it delayed the move of the ball, but still resulted in very angular late moves.  If you think about it you see most 7-10s on house shots, and medium length tournament patterns.  You dont see them much on short patterns except where urethane is being thrown.  Also not so much on very long patterns except where heavy handed guys ate using surface to try and create area.

Granted too many league bowlers feel that a ball that hits the 1 and 3 pins (right handed) it should strike and if it doesn't then they were robbed.

5-7, 5-7-10 and 8-10 are bad shots that deflect way too much when they make it to the 1-3, hence they are not good shots.

I'm sure any long time bowler has released a shot and it felt like a million bucks, right speed, right line, right amount of turn and 9 times out of 10 times it strikes. But there is that 10% that either thru conditioner carry down, pins off spot, pattern break down, etc. they simply don't strike and can leave an occasional ugly split.

Belmo's case I thought he wasn't playing the lanes correctly trying to slow hook them, he could have played the same line the winner was but chose not too. The line he chose lent himself to leaving the 7-10 with shots that felt good to him off his hand but simply came into the 1-3 a little late at the wrong angle. I don't believe they were poorly thrown shots just bad results.