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Kid Jete

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Good cover/core combo to minimize user error?
« on: March 17, 2009, 04:16:46 AM »
I have read a lot about asymmetrics being a little more difficult to control when you aren't throwing the ball consistently.  I'll be the first to admit I damn near close to a member of the spray and pray school and don't have much of a desire to work on accuracy as I am a house hack that only bowls once a week for maybe half the year at very most (I'm a golfer).  I have been thinking about getting something a little weaker for our medium-light wood lanes.  My next thought was that if symmetrics sort of "mask" user error more than asymmetrics would a Razyr be an even better option with it's pancake core?

 

JessN16

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Re: Good cover/core combo to minimize user error?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2009, 02:09:33 PM »
For me, the most user-friendly balls are the ones that want to roll in the midlane. Rolling too early hurts carry and uses up too much energy too soon (in case I pitch it out a little and need some recovery), while balls that roll too late typically exacerbate whatever's going on in the backends. So strong midlane balls are the best for me, and then I can adjust surface to tailor the reaction to my needs.

You actually have a two-part question here -- forgiving balls, then balls that work on dry conditions, because they're not necessarily the same. If I was going to try to find the intersection of those two, I would stay away from high-polish pearls. I'd either look at a medium ball from about 10-15 years ago and add polish as needed, or at a new ball like the Blue-Green Centaur from Visionary or the Chainsaw from Lane #1, something that has a mild surface but isn't so high-shined that it's going to do tricks when it sees friction.

Personally, I would not buy a Rayzr because I tend to have carry problems with any pancake-block ball. But I know a lot of people love them, so one could very well work for you.

Some of my dry-lane gear includes names like AMF XS, AMF Ultra C, Ebonite Matrix Conquest, stuff that was front-of-the-line when it was introduced but that has now been bypassed. Still works great on dryer conditions and wood lanes.

As for forgiving, most of the late Brunswick-poured Lane #1 stuff (especially the Tsunami) fits the bill. It tends to want to roll hard in the midlane and let me control the backend but the polished stuff takes the heads out of play somewhat. I think that's more important than whether it's symmetrical or asymmetrical.

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Kid Jete

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Re: Good cover/core combo to minimize user error?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2009, 02:19:08 PM »
Someone recommended the B/G Centaur and Avalanche Solid a while back to try and smooth out the reaction on the conditions I bowl on.  I went with the Solid because of nearly getting it for free and I do like it a lot but it's too much ball when the lanes start to burn up, even with the light coat of polish I have on it.  Does the B/G have a weaker cover?  I know the Solid has a fairly strong cover.  I was also thinking maybe a Link at 4000 or something.

Jeffrevs

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Re: Good cover/core combo to minimize user error?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2009, 02:26:21 PM »
a knowledgeable driller can drill an asymm for you that is just as forgiving as a symmetrical ball.  He just has to know what he's doing AND know your game.

"Control drill" may fit your bill....

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JessN16

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Re: Good cover/core combo to minimize user error?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2009, 02:36:07 PM »
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Someone recommended the B/G Centaur and Avalanche Solid a while back to try and smooth out the reaction on the conditions I bowl on.  I went with the Solid because of nearly getting it for free and I do like it a lot but it's too much ball when the lanes start to burn up, even with the light coat of polish I have on it.  Does the B/G have a weaker cover?  I know the Solid has a fairly strong cover.  I was also thinking maybe a Link at 4000 or something.


I don't have a B/G, so I'm not sure. I do know that Visionary covers are very tuneable. Best dry-lane "newer" ball I have right now is an old Banger Hole Finder Pearl I got used from someone here, then shined it to 4000 and polished it. Very smooth and predictable with no over/under.

The Link also looks like a good bet. I've strongly considered trying out one of those and you can buy them NIB for next to nothing on eBay.

The Chainsaw will be my next experiment. Its higher price tag could be off-putting, but I know a couple of guys who aren't Lane #1 guys, wouldn't let you give them a Lane #1 higher-end ball, but who have tried the Chainsaw and are hooked.

Also, as Jeffrevs said, you can tune an asym to your game easily if your driller knows how to do it. And if you go with the Link, you'll have to, because that's an asym ball.

Jess