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Mike Austin

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Dry Lane balls.....?
« on: January 12, 2011, 01:13:43 PM »
Are there really any true dry lane balls?  What do people in your area use for dry lanes?  What do you use? 

 

Have been doing a number of Avalanche urethanes, but am curious as to what other people are using.

 


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Re: Dry Lane balls.....?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2011, 01:38:29 PM »
RX-1 Recon Pearl is an excellent dry lane ball...does not FLIP off dry like some other supposed dry lane balls do...here's looking at you Tropical Storm and Avalanche Slide!

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Re: Dry Lane balls.....?
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2011, 02:56:43 PM »
Always have to bring height into it???  At least you left out fat....  Come by and see me some time, bring Charlie too!
 



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An AMF Orbit and Orbit Extreme (pre Ebonite acquisition of Columbia). They were both drilled by a short guy that moved to Oklahoma but is now back in Texas. The Orbit is Rico'd at 4000ab and the Extreme has the pin below the bridge, cg stacked right below it at 2000ab. Surface keeps both from squirting but the old BASF Super Flex is really mild by todays standards. Orbit worked really good at AMF Alpha here in the Houston area (old wood with hooking track) on a 34 ft sport condition last weekend.


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Re: Dry Lane balls.....?
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2011, 08:53:54 PM »

 
golfnutFL wrote on 1/13/2011 2:38 PM:RX-1 Recon Pearl is an excellent dry lane ball...does not FLIP off dry like some other supposed dry lane balls do...here's looking at you Tropical Storm and Avalanche Slide!



+1,000. Most unique motion available on todays market. I have yet to drill a Recon pearl but the solid is IMO the only "true" dry lane ball out there. Look at the core specs....very low diff keeps it very mild and under control off the spot. Specs are pretty similar to the Rhino Pro core and this ball reminds me of the Rhino quite a bit.



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Re: Dry Lane balls.....?
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2011, 08:54:22 AM »
A couple weeks ago I drilled a Track 300C for a customer who bowls in a Wed. morning league, the lanes haven't been oiled since the previous day.  He's a fairly hi rev spinner, 30* axis tilt and ~75* axis rotation.  I don't remember the exact layout, but I used a large angle sum for his specs and, I believe, 5 or 5.5" pin to PAP.  When we drilled it the lanes were fresh and he compared it to a higher level Track ball, I think it was a 505A.  He had to move 5 boards right on the approach to get back to the pocket.  Let me know if you want me to eliminate the uncertainties and I'll check the drill sheet.  --  JohnP


 
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Re: Dry Lane balls.....?
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2011, 09:29:04 AM »
True Dry lane ball  - XXXL   or Tropical Storm drilled extremly long..


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Re: Dry Lane balls.....?
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2011, 12:41:18 PM »
Depending on how dry it is i use a Lightning Storm at 4k polished, a Desperado  thats drilled with a 6" pin to pap and has been polished. And if really toasted an old Gold Grenade

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Re: Dry Lane balls.....?
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2011, 12:41:23 PM »
Depending on how dry it is i use a Lightning Storm at 4k polished, a Desperado  thats drilled with a 6" pin to pap and has been polished. And if really toasted an old Gold Grenade

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Re: Dry Lane balls.....?
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2011, 12:49:34 PM »
@Zanatos: i would agree with you about the XXXL as a good dry lane piece, however all of my experiments with the Tropical line balls, and my slow speed still has them flipping at the end of the pattern.

 

I have yet to see anyone in my area with the Recon pearl. I will reserve comment until I do.


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Re: Dry Lane balls.....?
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2011, 12:59:45 PM »

 Drill it up left handed long...  That will work..  Trust me...



Jesse James wrote on 1/14/2011 1:49 PM:
@Zanatos: i would agree with you about the XXXL as a good dry lane piece, however all of my experiments with the Tropical line balls, and my slow speed still has them flipping at the end of the pattern.


 


I have yet to see anyone in my area with the Recon pearl. I will reserve comment until I do.


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Re: Dry Lane balls.....?
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2011, 02:14:37 PM »

When I face dry lanes I use My XXXL..



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Re: Dry Lane balls.....?
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2011, 07:20:04 PM »

Yep. About any ball can be used on dry lanes is drilled properly and cover prepped properly.  

I purchased a used 916at drilled for a lefty, appx 6.5 x 6.5. Thought I would be able to go to it when the lanes broke down. Ball rolled straight as out the back with my normal release. Ended up using a gamebreaker at 4000 abralon, no polish, playing 15 at the arrows to 8. Boy, what a smooth hard hitting ball.

 

BTW, Get a 300C, drill it like you drill the ball above your dry lane ball, and adjust the surface as needed. You will not be diasppointed. No, I do not work for Track. I have punched up a couple of these balls, one for my brother and one for a friend. My friend shot 699 with his last night, using the VG the first game, (221) then switching to the 300(c)- 241, 237.  Several others in ou league have shot honor scores using the 300c. Best ball out for the money.

 

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Zanatos1914 wrote on 1/14/2011 1:59 PM:

 Drill it up left handed long...  That will work..  Trust me...






Jesse James wrote on 1/14/2011 1:49 PM:

@Zanatos: i would agree with you about the XXXL as a good dry lane piece, however all of my experiments with the Tropical line balls, and my slow speed still has them flipping at the end of the pattern.



 



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Re: Dry Lane balls.....?
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2011, 07:57:36 PM »
I must make comments about 2 balls mentioned here for dry lanes, one positive and one negative.
 
1. The Avalanche Slide - one person said it was too flippy for dry lanes. I have to differ with this opinion and suggest that this might have happened for one of 2 possible reasons. A. His release may make balls more flippy than average and, B, he might have drilled it too strongly. I say this because of 3 factors I have seen with my use of my Slide.
a) I drilled mine with the pin above the center of the bridge and the CG kicked out slightly from the center of the grip, winding up with a 5.5" x 4" drilling with the pin 3" above the midline. 
b) my release tends to make balls appear and act slightly more flippy than designed. (too many revs compared to ball speed)
c) My Slide on the driest of "oil patterns" never acts flippy at all.
 
I have to believe, based on the above that  drilling properly for your release and for the amount of oil faced, will result in a very usable dry lanes ball without flippy, uncontrollable tendencies. Ball reaction of this Slide allows a true backend, a very slightly defined breakpoint, as compared to a similarly drilled Slingshot which will curve all the way, so very gently and have almost not discernible breakpoint.
 
2. The Track 300C
Both a friend and his wife have drilled one of these TWICE each and each one was almost flippy on the same amount of oil or "oil pattern" (The words 'oil pattern' are in quotes because the amount of oil we all see in this same house AFTER they freshly oil the lanes is a major joke.) . Both my friend with a rev rate around 300-350 rpms, and a ball sped of 15 mph at the pins and his wife, with a much lower ball speed and a much lower rev rate, have both seen, even with pin distances of 5" - 5.5" from PAP extremely flippy and very uncomtrollable breakpoint and ball reactions from their 300Cs. I use the plural because he has tried one ball with two drillings and several surfaces and she has tried 2 different 300Cs  with 3 different drillings.
 
The 300C is much stronger than my AND his Slingshot, at least 5 boards with his feet and that's a lot.
 


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