Post by: Curly on October 09, 2011, 08:33:15 PM
Post by: charlest on October 10, 2011, 05:43:29 AM
Ignorance is bliss.
Columbia, Hammer, Ebonite and Track are all made by Ebonite in one plant in Hopkinsville, KY by the same crew. If Hammer is "good" then they're all good. If Ebonite or Columbia are "bad", then they're all bad.
Storm,and ROto-Grip are all made by Storm in Utah. If Storm is "bad" then Roto-Grip is also bad. If Roto-grip is good, then Storm is good.
Cracking is 90% environmental: either the driller did something he was not supposed to do or the balls were put in cold, heat or humidity or stored inappropriately. Yes, some cracking comes from the curing process but most do not.
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Post by: Curly on October 10, 2011, 05:51:27 AM
Post by: kidlost2000 on October 10, 2011, 06:01:01 AM
"1 of 1."
Post by: HankScorpio on October 10, 2011, 06:05:01 AM
Great response to a correct reply from charlest, Curly. Why let facts get in the way of your opinion, right?
Post by: jkiser01 on October 10, 2011, 07:41:39 AM
I have drilled up close to 200 balls over the past 5 years from all the companies listed and I have had 1 ball crack on me. I think alot of the cracking issues are due to user error. You cannot keep your bowling stuff in your trunk in the summer or your garage ever. You are asking for trouble. I have also seen a lot of balls drilled with the space between the bridge way too small, which is gonna lead to cracks starting in the bridge area.
I personally never keep my bowling stuff in the car for very long and keep my bag in the house until I am going to use it.
This is just mt 2 cents on this issue..
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Post by: charlest on October 10, 2011, 07:55:43 AM
I guess my signature line is as true as it ever was.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Edited by charlest on 10/10/2011 at 7:56 AM
Post by: charlest on October 10, 2011, 07:59:06 AM
Hank,
Thanks.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
"A comedian says funny things. A comic says things funny."
Edited by charlest on 10/11/2011 at 5:15 AM
Post by: MI 2 AZ on October 10, 2011, 10:17:27 AM
Didn't he put smilies in his post, twice?
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Post by: Inverted 1 on October 10, 2011, 10:33:05 AM
My garden gnomes enjoy the company of about 10 bowling balls that have cracked recently (within the last two years). The most recent being my Total Inferno.
Laast month, I wanted to take my Break Out to Vegas with me only to find it had cracked all the way around the ball..
Now, all of my ball are stored in their boxes up off the ground and I live in So Cal so there is very little tempeture extremes..
Every single manufacture is out in the garden right. Brunwick is ahead of Global 900 by one..
Edited by Inverted 1 on 10/10/2011 at 10:34 AM
Post by: txbowler on October 10, 2011, 11:50:28 AM
Post by: kidlost2000 on October 10, 2011, 01:37:25 PM
No matter where you put your bowling ball it experiences gravity. More then likely it is a slow reaction process to the glue used on finger and thumb inserts. Or just the ever changing expanding and contrasting of materials to the weather.
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Post by: Xx 12 X 300 xX on October 10, 2011, 02:22:23 PM
I've only had a couple of balls crack
Hammer Black Widow - after about 4 years of usage
Hammer Big Blue Pearl - within 3 months of drilling it
Track Kinetic Pearl - within 3 months of drilling it
Global 900 S40 - same week I drilled it
Post by: JOE FALCO on October 10, 2011, 04:00:18 PM
I always appreciate your comments and I always value your opinion .. but I have to ask a question relative to your response! What is the length of time you hold on to balls? I don't think the cracking happens to balls 3-6 months .. I THINK it happens to balls held 1 year or longer!That's only an opinion!
Post by: David Lee Yskes on October 10, 2011, 05:37:56 PM
I've had 3 balls crack on me. a Reign of Fire, Tropical Heat, and Theory,
The RoF happened last season, and it was in the weight hole, so it wasnt like the shell split open.
the Tropical Heat "started" about 3 weeks after i had it drilled up after last christmas... it started spiderwebbing all around the switch grip sleeve.. and when the start of the season happend, i went to grab the ball to do some practice and the shell had split open...
The Theory, i just happened to roll the ball over cuz i was heading out to do some practice 2 days after i noticed the TH split, and found this one had done the same thing...
Crazy thing is both balls sat in my bedroom on the floor since last april...
No my proshop guy has heard a few things.. 1 is that since the companies are having to put out so many balls so fast now, they dont let them cure as well as they use too..... 2 is that once the ball is drilled, it becomes brittle, but as long as the ball is being used, all the chemicals and compounds that are used to make the ball stay in motion... but if the ball sits for a extended period of time, everything settles to the bottom.......... sounds weird i guess, but i kinda believe it.....
But its funny as i have had some balls, for years and no issues at all, and they are still being used...... and then i have two like the Theory and tropical heat lol.......
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Post by: Sunshine n Lollipops on October 10, 2011, 07:03:47 PM
Yes, MI2AZ, he did put smiles in his reply meaning he was admitting he was wrong and Charlest was correct. Perhaps he wasn't so off on his pompous comment seeing that Charlest refused to get it and un-graciously continued to bash him.
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Post by: Monster Pike on October 10, 2011, 08:05:30 PM
I'd say that's par for the course in my experiences reading his posts. Kudos to Curly here for not giving it back to him in this forum...
I have two Storms that cracked, not sure why. They were in my finished basement on a practice putting green I made..So they were up off the ground... One was an Attitude Shift (that I did not buy from or have drilled by jls) & the other was an overseas release X-Factor Perfecta Pro CG (also not bought n drilled by jls). Both 15 pounds. I have older balls in the same place that are still fine.
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Post by: Curly on October 11, 2011, 04:28:29 AM
Charlest made the valid point regarding manufacturers but my 'opinion' is based upon observation. There ARE noticeable differences between brands and i see it in what we get from our distributors. I don't care who makes what.
Read some good replies regarding the cracking issue. Thanks. So we have environment, driller error, physics, and bowler mis-care. Alotta factors that would seem to rule out poor manufacturing. I'm just not following the spike, in cracked balls, that we're seeing. After ten years.... all of a sudden balls are cracking left and right. lol!
Post by: Monster Pike on October 11, 2011, 05:30:05 AM
Post by: chucksta29 on October 11, 2011, 08:45:35 AM
I'd rather you hate me for everything I am, then have you love me for something that I'm not!!! 5FDP
Post by: sigmaphi9 on October 11, 2011, 09:35:58 AM
Last ball I had crack was my Brunswick C System 4.5. I had used it at league the week before. After league, I removed it from my bag and placed on my ball rack inside my home. Looked at it a week later and it was split from my thumb to halfway around. This is only the second ball I've had crack in 26 years. The first was a Columbia Game.
