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joeyyant

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Good low flaring ball
« on: September 11, 2015, 08:07:49 AM »
I am looking for a good low flaring bowling ball, something stronger than a urathane but a little weaker than a tropical heat.  I had a strike king and a deep freeze article chill but both bowling balls gave me more hook on dry than what I was looking for.  I was going to try either a ride or an arson low flare but with a weak layout. Any thoughts or suggestions because I can assume I can get this ball reaction pretty easy with the right layout. Thanks

 

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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2015, 02:21:32 PM »
I like low flare on wet dry fresh shots or as a way to stay right.  Normally I would go to a higher flaring pearl and follow the oil in on a second shift.  Very difficult to stay right when the middles between 10 and 15 are blown up.   My IQ tour and Ride are both low flare pieces with low and high rg respectively.  Great balls, but neither hits good for me when I move in, and even the ride will start up early if I move toward the outside edge of the track area.   
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2015, 02:29:57 PM »
Most of these recommended "low flare" balls are way stronger than urethane. The OP requested balls just barely stronger than urethane.
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joeyyant

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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2015, 03:19:27 PM »
I had the tropical heat hybrid (I liked it but most low end pieces respond to drastically off the friction). My speed sometimes causes a urethane to push too far, I had the pitch black and liked it. Trying to find a ball barely stronger than urethane probably depends more on layout as well. I am leaning towards the arson because hammer hasn't cracked on me yet. The breakdown looks interesting but not sure how 900 global is if there ball cracks.
Most of these recommended "low flare" balls are way stronger than urethane. The OP requested balls just barely stronger than urethane.

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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2015, 03:20:24 PM »
Well. if he can throw 16 pounds, Bowlerscellar has been selling the blue-green centaur(Blems) on Ebay for 60 bucks I believe...that is a very weak resin ball that has been highly praised by quite a few people on this site over the years.

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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2015, 03:35:05 PM »
Most of these recommended "low flare" balls are way stronger than urethane. The OP requested balls just barely stronger than urethane.


Totally agree.  I was leery of suggesting the Ride. 

Of the easy-to-find equipment, I would think the Tropical Breeze or maybe the Supernatural, though the Supernatural might be too similar to his urethane.

joeyyant

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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2015, 10:27:36 PM »


Totally agree.  I was leery of suggesting the Ride. 

Of the easy-to-find equipment, I would think the Tropical Breeze or maybe the Supernatural, though the Supernatural might be too similar to his urethane.
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I had the supernatural and to be honest didn't give it much of a try.  I have an older natural pearl sitting in my room that I am going to try just to see what happens.

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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2015, 11:34:24 PM »
What part of the lane are you trying to play? Is this as the lanes are drying out,  or on the fresh?

Low flare balls are designed to be clean through the front are respond quickly to friction. That is why most are also polished finish.

A higher flaring ball will respond slower to friction…… surface also responds slower to friction.

If you have a lower flaring ball already try hitting the surface with 2000, 3000, or 4000 grit. . The ball will pick up sooner but not be as jumpy off the friction.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

dougb

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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2015, 12:34:22 AM »
Why don't you try and pick up an older reactive resin piece like a Nitro or a Faball reactive? I had a Faball Norm Duke Signature Hammer and that ball allowed me to play straight all day to my heart's content.

avabob

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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2015, 10:32:37 AM »
Box condition Ride was only marginally stronger than my Blue Hammer at 4000. 

Jesse James

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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2015, 03:59:17 PM »
Hmmm. I was really interested in getting a Ride because I thought it was low flaring as well, but I've seen two bowlers with Rides and in our house and that ball just revs up like crazy on the backend.

I'm thinking I'll just stick with my Sonic-X and my Link.....both with surface!

Overall, Gene's idea of the Tropical Breeze sounds to be the best, or if he could find an old Columbia Beast, that might fit the bill as well.
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2015, 05:48:29 PM »
Hammer arson low flare
very predictable weaker piece

I'm not a super fan of hammer but this ball is what it says it is.  Balls gets down the lane with ease and has a nice predictable backend.
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2015, 05:54:16 PM »
To minimize flare use a flare reducing weight hole...this will make it easier to stay closer to the friction and close down angles
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2015, 12:10:07 PM »
Flare has nothing to do with rev rate.  If you tear the cover off the ball it is going to hook in the dry whether it is a strong core asymmetric ( at one end of the scale ) or a low flare symmetric.   Also the Ride in addition to being low flare is a high rg ball which means its rev rate will be a bit lower for any given release than will a low rg ball.  One caveat.  After putting about 50 games on my Ride it is clear that some of the tame reaction comes from the high polish box condition surface.  I find my Ride to be getting a bit stronger as it tracks in. 

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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2015, 12:24:56 PM »
Flare has EVERYTHING to do with rev rate as that's what identifies the amount...a bowling ball at rest creates NOTHING...
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2015, 12:31:59 PM »
And rev rate is NOT the main factor in regards to attacking friction...you can have a 450 rev rate and zero degrees axis rotation and the amount of friction will be irrelevant...
If you take a medium diff core and layout it out in the 5-5.75" from pap and you add a flare reducing weight hole...it will ALLOW the player to play closer to the friction as well as close down their angles greatly...I have used this with numerous hi rev players SUCCESSFULLY...
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