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joeyyant

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Good low flaring ball
« on: September 11, 2015, 08:07:49 AM »
I am looking for a good low flaring bowling ball, something stronger than a urathane but a little weaker than a tropical heat.  I had a strike king and a deep freeze article chill but both bowling balls gave me more hook on dry than what I was looking for.  I was going to try either a ride or an arson low flare but with a weak layout. Any thoughts or suggestions because I can assume I can get this ball reaction pretty easy with the right layout. Thanks
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2015, 07:45:20 PM »
Not sure whether you can find one, but I picked up a Jet Pilot last year.  Significantly weaker than any other reason balls, but just enough backend to finish.  It allows me to play very straight...which normally is not the case/

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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2015, 08:59:55 PM »
Flare increases toward its maximum potential the higher the rev rate.  However it is rev rate, axis rotation, and friction that determines hook.  If you have 450 rpm and strong axis rotation you are going to have trouble keeping the ball off the beak on toast, and less flare wont make any difference. 
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2015, 09:12:28 PM »
Again I beg to extremely differ with you as I've laid out numerous pieces using this method rather successfully for staffers who's rev rate was well over 400-450...it allows the players to move closer to friction and shallow out angles...I'm not exactly sure where you're acquiring your data but I've seen multiple times
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2015, 09:17:38 PM »
Since it seems as if you don't understand 'hook' and/or flare I'll elaborate
Hook is any deviation of movement laterally as any point on the lane and is allowed by the combination of axis (side) rotation plus rev rate and more importantly the bowling ball slowing down caused by surface...flare only effects reaction if the bowling ball slows down and slows down properly...if you take a bowling ball and minimize the flare to nil it will create less overall reaction due to the core being or staying in a more stable position...flare is created by wobble or instability in the core which enhances movement...
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2015, 08:53:28 AM »
I have a Ride with 100X1 7/8 48. It is very smooth and it doesn't jump off friction. It reminds me of a cleaner urethane. While I like the drilling for my game, perhaps you should try the 5.75 ish pin from PAP. I guarantee you the ball will need some friction to make a move and a flare decreasing weight hole will help even more.
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2015, 09:12:06 AM »
My Desert Hook is great for the burn, but don't know if you can find one anymore.
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2015, 10:38:19 AM »
Quote from: Gene J Kanak on September 11, 2015, 10:04:47 AM
Man, weaker than a Tropical Heat? That may be tough to find in resin. I'm mostly a Brunswick/DV8/Radical guy at this point, but I still have the Tropical Heat pearl in my bag as a dry lane/spare ball. I took the surface on mine down to 500 to smooth it out and take away over/under, and I have been using it in place of my T-Zone as a spare ball. To me, the Strike King was noticeably stronger than my Trop. Heat. It still wasn't a "strong" ball by any stretch, but it was more ball than my Trop.

Wait the Tropical Heat was weak?  As weak as the Loco Series?
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2015, 04:58:35 PM »
Columbia Scout with the pancake weight block is weakest low flaring reactive ball  your going to find.Surprised nobody has mentioned it.Very cheap dry lane ball.The tiger eye scout is a good looking ball.
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2015, 05:43:05 PM »
Try and find a Brunswick Slingshot on eBay. More versatile than many other entry level balls with pancake weight blocks. I think it had .17 diff if not mistaken.
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2015, 08:38:51 PM »
How strong is the Scout's coverstock?
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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2015, 11:03:19 PM »
Someone is selling a 15 pound used  Lane #1 Pearl Viper on Ebay. That Ball has a very low flaring core and a mild cover I believe.

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Re: Good low flaring ball
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2015, 07:55:48 AM »
Quote from: BowlingforSoup on September 19, 2015, 04:58:35 PM
Columbia Scout with the pancake weight block is weakest low flaring reactive ball  your going to find.Surprised nobody has mentioned it.Very cheap dry lane ball.The tiger eye scout is a good looking ball.

Not sure about that. Differential on the Scout is .020 (pancake core or not); Differential on the Tropical Breeze is .009 and it's a true dynamic core. Coverstock on the Scout is Super-Flex; on the Trop. Br. it's Reactor, roughly comparable.
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