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Greatest bowler of all time...
« on: January 13, 2005, 12:30:58 AM »
Earl Anthony...period. Now wait. Before anyone flames me or any WRW fanyboys cuss me out, really think about what the man did. Yeah, I know we are talking about two totally different eras, but what if Earl had what we had now? One thing that really sticks in my mind about this is record that Walter Ray WILL be breaking this year, is that look how long it took him to do it!

Let's not even get caught up with the competition wasn't the same as it is now...please! Earl has bowled against guys we consider LEGENDS in our sport and still owned everyone when he was winning. Walter Ray in my opinion is the closest to Earl that we will ever see and I don't see his record being broke by anyone anytime soon, not by PDW, Norm, Parker nobody. What do you all think?
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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2005, 08:35:01 AM »
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What do you all think?


I think you're stating the obvious.  WRW is a great bowler, but he's no Earl Anthony - 41 titles or otherwise.
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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2005, 09:03:03 AM »
It all depends on the yard stick used to measure with. Picking those two guys was easy as there PBA records speaks for themselves. Having bowled and competed during both "eras" its difficult to say because Earl made his accomplishments before the advent of flaring balls. And of course, WRW made his accomplishment because of flaring balls. Would Earl have exploited todays balls? Or would WRW have been as successfull with his release in days prior to flairing balls? Who knows. These two bowlers of different eras is like comparing apples and oranges.

But if I had to guess, with Earl's ability to control ball speed, control rev rate and his incrediable analytical perspective of  his and the game, I contend he would have won alot more frequently today. In the 1980 greater Miami Sunshine Open I worked as a mechanic which earl won (and pete weber won the PTQ which eliminated the PTQ for him the next year). What I will always remember about that tournament was not that Earl won, was that the powers that be decided that the left side was not going to be tougher. I remember distinctly the use of a presatured towel on a push bar (days prior to the use of lane machines) being used and oil completely saturated to the gutter on the left side but not on the right. And a oil spray can used with exactly 5.5 pumps per lanes and being sprayed more on the left side than the right. And despite this Earl won. It was completely an example of how Earl was the master of his game and completely understood the game enough to somehow compensate and slap those powers. It was awesome indeed.

I suppose that the only question that lingers as to Earl's greatness is the enivetable lefty / righty issue. Would Earl have dominated if he been right handed? I know this will spark alot of debate but I contend yes he would which in my opinion would have settled this debate clearly.
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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2005, 09:03:07 AM »
Joe Norris.  Bowled at a very high level for over 50 years.

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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2005, 09:32:34 AM »
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Joe Norris.  Bowled at a very high level for over 50 years.

Well, if you want to go that route...

Dick Weber. Won a PBA title in six consecutive decades.

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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2005, 09:38:51 AM »
People forget, Earl retired at the beginning of the Urethane era, yet he won with urethane.  He came back and bowled a few senior events, til he got bored, and won with resin.  Put it this way: have you ever seen anyone else throw sixty-five in a row, even in a practice round?  Have you ever heard of anyone else visualizing an entire set before bowling it?  

Every time you think of bowling against Anthony, it was 72 quality shots (six game set).  Oh, and he finished second over eighty times.  And made enough shows two be on TV for years.  In a much shorter period of time.  Earl dominated the game the way Ruth did, the ways Bonds can, and achieved Hoganesque excellence but kept it up longer.  

Anthony and Hogan.  Hmmm.
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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2005, 10:20:41 AM »
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Anthony and Hogan.  Hmmm.
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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2005, 10:33:21 AM »
Rags - Naw.... Probably Col. Hogan from Hogan's heroes.

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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2005, 10:55:00 AM »
Earl was a great bowler and bowled from my side.

But....

Ned Day is the man.

Some of his accomplishments as of 1948 (remember this was using rubber bowling balls):

5 times World's Invitational Match Game Champ

ABC All Events Champ (Detroit, 1948)

41 300 games

33 successive strikes in a row twice (rolling rubber)

All American Team 5 times

Won 2 OLYMPIC Championships (Berlin, 1936)

Competitive average for 5,000 games: 221

Held World's Tournament Record of 834 (300-276-258) LA, CA, 1939.

Held 10 game record of 2671

Held 5 game record of 1393

Highest 3 game exhibition record of 879 (290-300-289)

6 time member of National Team Match Game Championships

2 times Bowler of the year

Won Petersen World Open Classic Tournament

Undefeated in any individual match of over 60 games

Made 14 movies and wrote 4 books on bowling

Developed the "Ned Day Grip" which revolutionized the game

Traveled over 1,000,000 miles in the interest of bowling.

Taught close to one million people the sport, and reached countless bowlers through his books and movies

These bowlers ranked pretty well also: Jimmy Smith, Jimmy Blouin, Joe Wilman, Steve Nagy, Lee Jouglard, Junie McMahon, Ed Kawolics, Nelson Burton (not Jr.) Buddy Bomar, Don Carter, Dick Weber, Mark Roth, and of course Walter Ray Williams, Jr., Parker Bohn III, and Arnie Goldman (won 776 out of 1,000 PBA match games, without a title...lost to Earl Anthony).
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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2005, 11:15:37 AM »
Ned Day!?! I'm going to look into this guy and what he did. Still love Earl though.
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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2005, 11:34:58 AM »
Rags,

Actually, the Hogan I think Phil was referring to was Ben Hogan (Golf).


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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2005, 07:05:41 PM »
Dave Traber is obviously the greatest of all time.
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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2005, 07:12:08 PM »
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Dave Traber is obviously the greatest of all time.
 

Andy, you might make everyone's sheet list with that remark...lol
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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2005, 07:31:12 PM »
Earl started later and have 41 to his credit along with 80 seconds. I agree with pin-chaser Earl was the best in that era he bowl in ability to change if needed. And WRW what he did during his career is remarkable as that also like EARL with ability to change shots even during the release. Both were consident in hitting the same area over and over.What more can you say about the list goes on and on. As well as the debate who is better. I will tell yuo that both were the best in time that they bowl. Would it be fun to see both go head to head against each other that would be the match of the century? Only if we would of wonder. If I had a bowling team,I would love to have both of them.
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Re: Greatest bowler of all time...
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2005, 09:14:53 PM »
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