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ccrider

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More difficult to bowl: Extremely Dry or Oil
« on: April 23, 2007, 03:53:56 AM »
I have been wondering about this since I started bowling in February. I notice many of you talk about the walled shot and easy house patterns. I bowl in different houses when I get a chance, and invariably find that the most difficult shot is in those houses where the lanes are totally dry.

I have not bowled on "PBA" patterns so I can not speak to them. We have wooden lanes in my house and they do not oil except for league play. If there is oil on the lanes, I can find a shot, and easily average 175 to 180.  This holds true wherever I bowl. If the lanes are dry, as they usually are, I have to work (lofting ball, opening hand, etc.) to average 165, using less aggressive equipment (Desert Heat).

My brothers have been bowling  for years and both average 200+. But, when they come here on our dry lanes, I consistently beat them.  

My question is, for those of you that have bowled the "PBA" patterns, and bowled on extremely dry lanes, what is more difficult. How do the two situations compare in terms of difficulty, and adjustments that have to be made?

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Re: More difficult to bowl: Extremely Dry or Oil
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2007, 02:31:52 PM »
No oil.

I've encountered it a few times in open play and it's a waste of money to shoot on.  Everything rolls out at the arrows.  Try to swing it gutter to gutter and it's got nothing left after 30 feet and never makes it back.  Try straighter and it's in the left gutter at 40ft.  The only way I can even bowl on that condition is to pick up a house ball and try to throw as straight as I can and forget about carry and just pick up spares as best I can.
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Re: More difficult to bowl: Extremely Dry or Oil
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2007, 02:42:22 PM »
DRY I HATE DRY.
being a cranker u have to stand in the other persons lane, loft the ball past the arrows, get it out to the one board, and hope u dont leave a 10pin. well thats the way i used to go about it. i got a lane #1 clear blue diamond now. it carries really well when there is very very little to NO OIL AT ALL on the lane. so now the dry dry dry doesnt make me cry cry cry anyone.
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Re: More difficult to bowl: Extremely Dry or Oil
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2007, 02:47:24 PM »
Very Dry lanes are the most difficult. When your dry lane ball is hooking across the lane, you are in deep trouble. It becomes extremely difficult to find any consistency in your shot making, and picking up spares becomes much more difficult as well, leading to lots of open frames. Heavy oil...you can throw a straight ball if all else fails and still have a chance picking up spares. Reverse block lanes aren't too bad if you just throw a simple down and in shot using fifteen as your target with a light oil bowling ball. Sport patterns aren't that bad if you play in the middle of the lane. So...for my vote, it's dry lanes as being the most difficult to bowl upon, as far as conditions are concerned.

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ccrider

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Re: More difficult to bowl: Extremely Dry or Oil
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2007, 05:41:23 PM »
Thanks for your input guys. It seems like no oil, by consensus, is the more difficult to master.

Being a beginner, with very little hand in the ball, I have an advantage over my brothers who have been bowling for years, and are closer to strokers.

I can easily come straight up the back of the ball and reduce the reaction. They have trouble doing this effectively and consistently. While I like to see them throwing the big hook and at one time that was my goal, I am beginning to think that hooking the ball across the lane is overrated ---just another shot that a solid bowler needs to have in his arsenal.



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Re: More difficult to bowl: Extremely Dry or Oil
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2007, 06:56:53 PM »
Since I am a low rev/higher speed player, I used to DESPISE long/heavy  patterns. I have since learned to play in the oil. I even managed to score pretty well on the 50ft TOC pattern.

These days, bone dry is the most difficult for me. If plastic is rolling out at the arrows, it's just a matter of moving all the way outside and trying to get some angle into the pocket. Carry is going to be the biggest issue.
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Re: More difficult to bowl: Extremely Dry or Oil
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2007, 07:15:22 PM »
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From tournament experience the order from hardest to easiest is as follows:

-Reverse Block (nearly impossible)
-US Open Pattern
-PBA Patterns from short to long (at least for me)
-Regional Patterns
-Heavy Oil
-Medium Oil
-THS
-Light/No Oil


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Honestly, I would have to put sport conditions near the top and the T of C shot in there somewhere.

I've bowled a reverse block.  It's tough, but not impossible.  Shorter PBA patterns are easy, but Shark pattern (old PBA Pattern B) is very particular due to the length and volume of oil.  Under league conditions, I can always throw a spare ball if the lanes are dry, and I can throw rockets if the lanes are flooded.  I love a good THS for open play in a new house - it's good for the ego when I average 245 or so.  And people love to gather and watch, which makes ambassadorship for the game a lot easier.
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Re: More difficult to bowl: Extremely Dry or Oil
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2007, 10:33:09 PM »
Give me the Sahara desert condition. I'll just stand right and fire it hard up 5 or 10 with no hand.
Big time flood I'm screwed if I am forced to play in or deep and can't get the ball past 15 at the break.
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