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thewhiz

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polishing a ball
« on: December 13, 2015, 10:24:41 PM »
I clean my balls with cleaner after every set. I own a ball spinner.  How often should I polish my balls?  After how many games?  Just to bring them back to factory finish.

 

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Re: polishing a ball
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2015, 05:01:11 AM »
Your eyes should tell you when. Look at the track area. If it has dull looking lines after you have thoroughly cleaned it, then the polish has worn off by contact with the lane. Refresh it.

In general, I'd suggest at least every 18 - 25 games. If the lanes are on the dry side, if you're rev rate is on the higher side, the lane surfaces are older, then the number of games a polishing will last will be less to much less.
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Re: polishing a ball
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2015, 11:40:34 AM »
Your eyes should tell you when. Look at the track area. If it has dull looking lines after you have thoroughly cleaned it, then the polish has worn off by contact with the lane. Refresh it.

In general, I'd suggest at least every 18 - 25 games. If the lanes are on the dry side, if you're rev rate is on the higher side, the lane surfaces are older, then the number of games a polishing will last will be less to much less.


Hi Charlest,

By refreshing, you would only have to apply another coat of polish with the spinner? You done have to do any surface adjustments, right?

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Re: polishing a ball
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2015, 12:37:11 PM »
Your eyes should tell you when. Look at the track area. If it has dull looking lines after you have thoroughly cleaned it, then the polish has worn off by contact with the lane. Refresh it.

In general, I'd suggest at least every 18 - 25 games. If the lanes are on the dry side, if you're rev rate is on the higher side, the lane surfaces are older, then the number of games a polishing will last will be less to much less.


Hi Charlest,

By refreshing, you would only have to apply another coat of polish with the spinner? You done have to do any surface adjustments, right?

Yes.
By the time you do a 2nd refreshing, it might be a good idea to redo the underlying surface, but it depends on how well the ball is rolling and hitting. Also by the time it needs a 2nd refreshing, it might not be a bad idea to try an oil extraction.

I just did an oil extraction for a 2nd teammate (did one last Spring for another). This one was a polished DV8 Marauder; he's used it for 2 years and I can't convince these older bowlers to clean their balls after each league session. Oddly, I got 3 of my 4 teammates in another league cleaning their balls after each session; they range in age from 30 - 50. Anyway, he has used this Marauder for about 2+ years now; enough oil cam out to oil 2 lanes, more or less, & we have been bowling on dry lanes for the past 3 years. I also redid the whole Brunswick finishing process; can't wait to see how it reacts next Thursday evening.
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Re: polishing a ball
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2015, 03:49:05 PM »

Charlest,

It's gonna carry!  (But I'm sure you already know this.)

I can't count how many Marauders and other Brunswick poured balls I've done this to over the past 10 years or so.  Every time the ball started carrying out the corners once again.

I've had the same success with Storm poured equipment.  They just seem to respond well to oil extraction and resurfacing.

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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2015, 04:49:43 PM »

Charlest,

It's gonna carry!  (But I'm sure you already know this.)

I can't count how many Marauders and other Brunswick poured balls I've done this to over the past 10 years or so.  Every time the ball started carrying out the corners once again.

I've had the same success with Storm poured equipment.  They just seem to respond well to oil extraction and resurfacing.


Oh, I'm sure it will.
The poor guy (he's about 70 and has very slow ball speed, about 9,9.5 at the backend.)  has been banging away at the pocket area with such a low carry percentage that he was feeling horrible about not contributing to the team. While I gave him a cleaner/polisher, he only used it every 2 months or so to hand polish the ball as it got worn. I think/hope this should increase his carrying power.
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Re: polishing a ball
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2015, 05:54:56 PM »
Sorry to hi jack the thread but Charlest and Notclay if you guys don't mind what kind of extractors do you use. Innovative bowling now has the personal extractor at a reasonable price , and I think it would look real good next to my spinner.

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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2015, 06:51:06 PM »
Sorry to hi jack the thread but Charlest and Notclay if you guys don't mind what kind of extractors do you use. Innovative bowling now has the personal extractor at a reasonable price , and I think it would look real good next to my spinner.

I use the NuBall.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BCQ0YG6/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
I know the owner and I know he tests every one before it is shipped out to insure the temperature gauge is precise with a couple of degrees of the stamped setting. I trust it and have used it many times.
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Re: polishing a ball
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2015, 08:57:07 PM »
charlest, I know you clean your stuff asap. Do you even get any oil out of your equipment with the nuball extractor?
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2015, 09:02:25 PM »

What type of oil extraction?

We have both the Revivor and The Detox in our shops.  Both do the job well.  I have a friend who bought the NuBall and it seems to work just fine. 

In my opinion the oil extraction is very important, but the resurfacing completes the job with maximum results. 


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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2015, 10:03:55 PM »
charlest, I know you clean your stuff asap. Do you even get any oil out of your equipment with the nuball extractor?

My own personal stuff? I hardly get anything out of them because I clean them religiously during the night and always thoroughly clean them after bowling before they go in the bag. I keep on trying, just to make sure.

But I get lots of oil from some teammates' balls, as they don't yet have a grasp on these new "resin" balls and the way absorbing oil affects them. As I mentioned above, some people hear my "preaching" and others don't really believe it: Resins absorb oil to hook and absorbed oil reduces their hooking potential.
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Re: polishing a ball
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2015, 01:05:04 AM »
Haven't bowled league in a while but, having a "ball cleaning" episode between frames seems a bit much.   Where is the "fun" with team mates during a league gone.  This "BS" with balls has about reached the level of foolishness.  Maybe I should say, crazyiness.

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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2015, 06:03:42 AM »
charlest, I know you clean your stuff asap. Do you even get any oil out of your equipment with the nuball extractor?

My own personal stuff? I hardly get anything out of them because I clean them religiously during the night and always thoroughly clean them after bowling before they go in the bag. I keep on trying, just to make sure.

But I get lots of oil from some teammates' balls, as they don't yet have a grasp on these new "resin" balls and the way absorbing oil affects them. As I mentioned above, some people hear my "preaching" and others don't really believe it: Resins absorb oil to hook and absorbed oil reduces their hooking potential.

That's what I thought.  I did the box and hair dryer thing and couldn't get any oil out of my equipment but did a team mates ball I took in on a trade and that ball sweat a ton of oil.
goes to show that if you clean your equipment then you should be good and I sometimes don't clean my stuff until a day or two after bowling.
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2015, 07:06:21 AM »
Haven't bowled league in a while but, having a "ball cleaning" episode between frames seems a bit much.   Where is the "fun" with team mates during a league gone.  This "BS" with balls has about reached the level of foolishness.  Maybe I should say, crazyiness.

You misread what I wrote or took it out out of context.
All I meant was to wipe your ball when you pick it up as part of the pre-shot routine. A million bowlers do that and I don't think they're crazy.

Since when is it crazy to prevent ball "death" by taking care of your equipment. I guess you haven't bought many $200 balls, not taken care of them and seen them lose reaction after 25 - 30 games. Maybe you've gotten all your balls for free. Maybe you just don't bowl anymore.
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