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Ray Finkel

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Handicap question
« on: January 27, 2005, 04:42:16 AM »

Was wondering from the people in other places what their league setup is.  The league I bowl in has 80% of 220, and I just don't see why they give pins to people with high averages.  They cap it so that a person can only have a 50 handicap so basically if you are below a 157 average bowler you are giving away pins.  Why reward high average bowlers and not the people that actually need handicap?

 

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Re: Handicap question
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2005, 01:38:17 PM »
That's one way to look at it.. another scenario: let's say a bowler has worked at his game, learned to adjust to lane conditions, make his spares, understands ball reactions and equipment, etc. and is rewarded with his efforts by posting a 215 average.  Let's say this bowler competes in the league with the handicap system you decribed below.  Let's also say he bowls one night against a 160 average bowler, someone fairly good at the game but obviously not at the same skill level as the bowler with the 215 average.  Mr. 215 bowls a nice game, say 220.  Mr. 160 bowls a 178... who wins?  What? a 178 beats a 220? How? Oh yeah.
In my opinion, it seems the lower average bowlers often argue that they should be handed victory through handicap rather than earning it by inproving their knowledge and skills.  I've seen this attitude drive off the more skilled participants from the handicap leagues, limiting the learning resources for the less talented.
Just my .02

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Re: Handicap question
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2005, 01:58:15 PM »
Be glad they figure off of 220 and the higher average guys get the pins.

 Let’s take two examples:

80% of 220.

160 average gets 48 pins handicap.
215 average gets 4 pins handicap.

160 shoots 175 so 175 + 48 is 223 with handicap.

215 shoots their average so 215 + 4 is 219 with handicap 160 average wins.

80% of 200.

160 average gets 32 pins.

215 average get 0 pins.

160 shoots 175 so 175 + 32 is 207 with handicap.

215 shoots 215 so 215 + 0   is 215 with handicap 215 average wins.

Same scores are shot in both cases but the 160 goes from winning by 4 to loosing by 8.

Low averages want the cap as high or higher than the highest average else they are giving 100% for every pin above the cap they are.

 


 

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Re: Handicap question
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2005, 05:35:20 PM »
This is why I run a singles scratch league!
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Re: Handicap question
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2005, 06:27:14 AM »
thats the most stupid thing i have ever heard!
think about it!
Pinbusters 1st senario, the 160 bowler shoots 175, BEATING HIS AVERAGE BY 15!
and the 215 bowler shoots 215, HE SHOULD LOOSE! the 160 bowler clearly had a better game!
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Re: Handicap question
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2005, 09:08:30 AM »
quote:
thats the most stupid thing i have ever heard!
think about it!
Pinbusters 1st senario, the 160 bowler shoots 175, BEATING HIS AVERAGE BY 15!
and the 215 bowler shoots 215, HE SHOULD LOOSE! the 160 bowler clearly had a better game!
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BUT it's much easier for Mr. 160 to bowl 180 by sheer accident, when he's heaving the ball down the center of the lane, while because the lane machine was messed up that day, Mr. 215 was lucky to find a line to shoot 215.
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