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Title: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: mr300ny on May 13, 2010, 02:50:44 AM
Out of these five feats (not including 900 series) which do you think is the hardest to accomplish:

1) 300 game
2) 800 series
3) convert 7-10 split
4) Average 230+ on a house shot
5) Average 210+ on a sport shot
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: 9andaWiggle on May 13, 2010, 11:00:20 AM
I'd have to go with #3 because that's the one that has never happened in any league I've ever bowled in.
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: sigmaphi9 on May 13, 2010, 11:00:53 AM
For me, converting the 7-10 split would be the hardest.  I've done that once in 24 years of bowling.  Next would have to be 210 on sport.  The only sport conditions I've bowled on are my PBAX leagues.  Averaged 202 last year but a LONG way to go before I could average 210.
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: TWOHAND834 on May 13, 2010, 11:55:15 AM
The 7-10 I think is the hardest.  Made it 3 times in 26 years, only once was it during a sanctioned league.  Alot of times, the difference between 750 and 800, is where are your non strikes and did you make the spares?  Know someone who had 2 opens and shot 801 (2 whiffed 10 pins).  

Russell on these forums, shot 833 with 2 opens one night (front 9, open (whiff 10 pin).....front 9 open (pocket 7-10).....300).
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: bowlerfromwyo on May 13, 2010, 11:58:20 AM
7-10 would be the hardest in my opinion.  Think to yourself howmany honor scores you have for yourself and then think how many times you have converted the 7-10.  And it also depends on the place you bowl at and how easy it is to bring something out from the pit.  Its all relative to where you bowl.
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: Good Times Good Times on May 13, 2010, 11:58:53 AM
I personally would say the 7-10 split, as i've never done it nor have I ever even seen a conversion of it..
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: stiknstring on May 13, 2010, 12:03:15 PM
Well if I have to go by bowlerinwyo's idea I would have to say the 7-10 is the easiest of those.  Its the only one I have completed  :-)
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: LuckyLefty on May 13, 2010, 12:03:54 PM
I''''ve never seen a 7-10 picked up!

However, I''''ve been on the lanes when it has been picked up....4 times...I always look away as ball heading down the lanes.

I have a friend who will regularly roll the 10 over the 7 spot in practice about 1 out of 5 times.

So given all that....I''''d say a 900 for a righty on a five man league team format.  800 for a righty....tough also!

Also hardest feat in bowling!  47 titles like Walter Ray has done already.  Catch him!

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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on May 13, 2010, 12:15:02 PM
I have to say #4 and #5.  The others just require to be locked in for one frame, game or night.  4 and 5 has to span over 90+ games during the fall, or 40+ games in the summer...
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: Oskuposer on May 13, 2010, 12:22:06 PM
Harder and statistically harder 292 but one 800 would be nice.
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: s1nger1 on May 13, 2010, 12:29:52 PM
In my case the 7-10 split would be the easiest. I have done that one a few times. Still waiting on the 300, 230 on THS, and 210 on Sport. I will go with the 292 as the hardest.
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: backupball on May 13, 2010, 12:38:52 PM
I've done #1, 2, and 3, and I'm a hack, so it can't be any of them.

#4 isn't that hard at the right house, so I'm going with #5.
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: dogman666 on May 13, 2010, 12:50:01 PM
Got to go with 5 with 4 a close second.
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: majik13 on May 13, 2010, 01:18:12 PM
6) All of the above.

I haven't accomplished any of these yet...so I have to go with #6.
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: BrianCRX90 on May 13, 2010, 04:14:06 PM
800 series in my opinion only because I haven't been much closer then 50 pins of it a few times. The reason I think 800 series is the hardest because if you think about it it's not that much different then a 900 series. Just a frame here and there and nearly all strikes you have a 800.
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: shelley on May 13, 2010, 07:45:37 PM
210 on a sport shot
800 series
230 on a house shot
300 game
7-10 split

Why is the 7-10 last?  Why is it the easiest?  Because there's no "skill" involved in picking it up.  Same with the Big-4.  Same with a hole-in-one.  It's all luck.  Grandma can make a 7-10 split, 110-average bowlers can make a 7-10 split.  But they can't shoot 300, and they certainly aren't going to shoot 800.

Why do the pros typically have so many Big-4s and 7-10s compared to the rest of us?  Well, if nothing else, because they have more opportunity to make it.  If a full-time pro bowls only 1000 games in a year, I'd be surprised.  Between practice and tournaments, it's probably more like 2000.  Go bowl 2000 games a year (about 6 games a day) and see how many 7-10s you leave and have the opportunity to make.

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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: Hogsharley on May 13, 2010, 07:57:00 PM
7-10. In my house it's only been made 5 times and the house is 50 years old.
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: BiGtYmEr300 on May 13, 2010, 08:39:09 PM
quote:
210 on a sport shot
800 series
230 on a house shot
300 game
7-10 split

Why is the 7-10 last?  Why is it the easiest?  Because there''s no "skill" involved in picking it up.  Same with the Big-4.  Same with a hole-in-one.  It''s all luck.  Grandma can make a 7-10 split, 110-average bowlers can make a 7-10 split.  But they can''t shoot 300, and they certainly aren''t going to shoot 800.


+1...This is pretty much exactly what I was about to say. I am surprised that so many of you picked the 7-10 as the hardest. Converting it is pure luck.
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: completebowler on May 13, 2010, 11:03:03 PM
quote:
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210 on a sport shot
800 series
230 on a house shot
300 game
7-10 split

Why is the 7-10 last?  Why is it the easiest?  Because there''s no "skill" involved in picking it up.  Same with the Big-4.  Same with a hole-in-one.  It''s all luck.  Grandma can make a 7-10 split, 110-average bowlers can make a 7-10 split.  But they can''t shoot 300, and they certainly aren''t going to shoot 800.


+1...This is pretty much exactly what I was about to say. I am surprised that so many of you picked the 7-10 as the hardest. Converting it is pure luck.
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I agree too. I am wondering why shooting 900 isn't on the list? It has become something that happens a few times a year these days so....why not me?
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: BBU on May 14, 2010, 01:19:11 AM
The 800 series is the hardest. It takes consistancy and patience which a lot of us dont have lol
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: leftyinsnellville on May 14, 2010, 04:44:43 AM
292 and a 7-10 pickup are not "hard"...just rare.

The most difficult, in my opinion, is the 800 series, followed closely by a person's first 300 game.  I've been told that subsequent 300 games aren't nearly as difficult as the first...I sure as hack wouldn't know.
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: T C 300 on May 14, 2010, 04:51:01 AM
#5 by F A R.......

but it and ALL are gona depend what house this is in.. we all know some houses carry better than others, some have ez house shots, some allow more pins to fly outa the back and even lane machines are gona make a diff...

alota different variables in this one...  LOL
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: jmattox on May 14, 2010, 05:33:52 AM
I would have to say the 800 series. I have done #1 and converted the 7-10 2 times in a 3 week span. And with my game I am happy to go clean for a game. I have so much more to learn about this game starting with repeating the same shot over.
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: Cobalt Bomb on May 14, 2010, 05:47:37 AM
Out of your choices, I would say 7-10. One choice you didn't mention is scoring a 292, which I believe is harder than any of your choices.
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: Chucky555 on May 14, 2010, 06:19:01 AM
the hardest thing i think u could do is pick up the 5-7-10
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: AngloBowler on May 14, 2010, 06:50:09 AM
Surprised to see a dutch 200 or a clean series isn't up there. Of the choices I'd say 800 is the toughest, followed by 4 and 5 about equal. A clean series is probably harder than all of those, level with a dutch 200.
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: shelley on May 14, 2010, 07:27:57 AM
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Out of your choices, I would say 7-10. One choice you didn't mention is scoring a 292, which I believe is harder than any of your choices.


I think a lot of you guys are confusing difficulty with infrequency.  There aren't a lot of 292s but given how many opportunities there are for them, if the bowling community made a concerted effort to get them, they'd be pretty frequent.  Certainly it's more difficult to shoot 292 than 293, but that's only because a 2-count is harder to get than a 3-count.  But the overwhelming majority of people in a position to shoot 292 aren't trying to shoot 292.  If they were, you'd see them much more frequently and no one would say they're any more difficult than any other 29x game.

SH
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: completebowler on May 14, 2010, 07:46:58 AM
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Surprised to see a dutch 200 or a clean series isn't up there. Of the choices I'd say 800 is the toughest, followed by 4 and 5 about equal. A clean series is probably harder than all of those, level with a dutch 200.
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Dutch 200 and a clean series are not as hard as an 800 series. Hell, most 800 series are clean so...And a dutch 200 would be very easy for most high end bowlers if they were trying to shoot one.
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: jkiser01 on May 14, 2010, 08:43:13 AM
I think #5 is the toughest.. That to me takes some skill.

I also think shooting a 300 is easier than shooting an 800..

Picking up the 7-10 is 90% luck..

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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: Nodsleinad on May 14, 2010, 08:58:45 AM
Done most of all the above... As a league secretary for years i can attest that the most diffucult thing in bowling is to satisfy everyone.

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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: on May 14, 2010, 09:29:51 AM
I think it depends on the characteristics of the center you bowl in. I''''ve coverted the 7-10 three times.
 
Some centers seem to have "more lively" pin decks so you see pins bouncing out and across more frequently than other places where you rarely see it happen. For me the 800 series is more rare (I have only one).

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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: NeumannKnight on May 14, 2010, 10:04:27 AM
The 7-10 split has been a somewhat 50/50 conversion for me in recent years. I leave it maybe 1-2 times a season and I have converted 4 in the past 3 seasons.
the odd part is I only have one big 4 conversion and I have left plenty more of those
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: NeumannKnight on May 14, 2010, 10:06:11 AM
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I have to say #4 and #5.  The others just require to be locked in for one frame, game or night.  4 and 5 has to span over 90+ games during the fall, or 40+ games in the summer...
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Someone that I have bowled with has 2 292 games. It is quite embrassing. Picked the 6-9 out of a full rack twice. I feel bad for him but it is too damn funny.
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300: Perfect Rival, Action Attack
Hammer: Jigsaw, No Mercy
Storm: Reign, Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line: The Gauntlet (my favorite)
AMF: The Heist
Insite: Revelations
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: mainzer on May 14, 2010, 10:54:59 AM
All Spare game if you consider the power of the modern equipment. LOL

I would say C

I have seen all the others accomplished.
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: Russell on May 14, 2010, 11:37:11 AM
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The 7-10 split has been a somewhat 50/50 conversion for me in recent years. I leave it maybe 1-2 times a season and I have converted 4 in the past 3 seasons.
the odd part is I only have one big 4 conversion and I have left plenty more of those
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300: Perfect Rival, Action Attack
Hammer: Jigsaw, No Mercy
Storm: Reign, Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line: The Gauntlet (my favorite)
AMF: The Heist
Insite: Revelations



wow....how about we check some flat gutters in that house?
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: No Revs00300 on May 14, 2010, 11:37:27 AM
I have done all of them, for me personaly, the 7-10 would be less likely to occur. the hardest imo, would be number 2.
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: Tex on May 14, 2010, 10:50:37 PM
I am going with the 800 because I haven't got there. Close but no cigar.

7-10 depends on where you bowl, the machines they use and the kick backs on the machine. I have seen the 7-10 multiple times and at one time in our center we would pick the off full racks on lanes 1&2 for fun. They rebuilt those two machines with all new kick backs and shocks and a product that I think was called super kickers. We would shoot at 10 pins and see how far up the lane it would travel. One guy brought it to the foul line. They put the regular kick backs back in the machines.

Now days the 230 may be the 220 average. I have even wondered if I should change my tournament handicap to 80% of 230. Thought about posting that idea for feed back.

Can't say on the sport. Sure it is hard, but probably getting easier as bowlers figure out the condition and what balls and drills work best.
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: bowlingnut07 on May 14, 2010, 11:26:00 PM
and to whoever said u have to have 9 in a row each game to shoot 800 is wrong
u can do front 6 spare and last 5 for 279 game and last i checked
279x3= 837
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: completebowler on May 14, 2010, 11:37:45 PM
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The 7-10 split has been a somewhat 50/50 conversion for me in recent years. I leave it maybe 1-2 times a season and I have converted 4 in the past 3 seasons.
the odd part is I only have one big 4 conversion and I have left plenty more of those
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300: Perfect Rival, Action Attack
Hammer: Jigsaw, No Mercy
Storm: Reign, Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line: The Gauntlet (my favorite)
AMF: The Heist
Insite: Revelations



wow....how about we check some flat gutters in that house?
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Was thinking the exact same thing.
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: completebowler on May 14, 2010, 11:41:05 PM
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and to whoever said u have to have 9 in a row each game to shoot 800 is wrong
u can do front 6 spare and last 5 for 279 game and last i checked
279x3= 837
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You don't actually have to be that good. Front 5, 9/, 9/ 4 more and count 9 for 267. Do that 3 times and you're home.
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: NeumannKnight on May 15, 2010, 12:34:35 AM
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The 7-10 split has been a somewhat 50/50 conversion for me in recent years. I leave it maybe 1-2 times a season and I have converted 4 in the past 3 seasons.
the odd part is I only have one big 4 conversion and I have left plenty more of those
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300: Perfect Rival, Action Attack
Hammer: Jigsaw, No Mercy
Storm: Reign, Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line: The Gauntlet (my favorite)
AMF: The Heist
Insite: Revelations



wow....how about we check some flat gutters in that house?
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Little known fact:  In Russian "Hope" and "Change" translate to "Tax" and "Spend"


This was accomplished in two different houses. The one house has a tight curtains on certain pairs. I have plenty of speed and revs. I try not to stick to one house and I try to change houses each season
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300: Perfect Rival, Action Attack
Hammer: Jigsaw, No Mercy
Storm: Reign, Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line: The Gauntlet (my favorite)
AMF: The Heist
Insite: Revelations
Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: kidlost2000 on May 15, 2010, 01:34:47 AM
All spare series is my vote,

or I guess the 7-10 split
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: burly on May 15, 2010, 04:06:00 PM
292

how can you get a two count?
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Title: Re: Hardest Feat to accomplish in bowling
Post by: On Further Review on May 15, 2010, 04:31:56 PM
Of the 5 original choices, it would almost surely be the 7-10 pickup.
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