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chipmunkbowler

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hooking it on the cheetah
« on: August 13, 2009, 08:57:20 AM »
i was wondering how would i go about playing the inside line on the cheetah because i tend to go for the straiter approach but when that breaks down there isnt much for me to do because i move in and the cheetah i bowl on is fairly flat and there isnt as much friction to the right (still some) how would i go about playing 3rd arrow or so when i have to?

 

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Re: hooking it on the cheetah
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2009, 04:59:32 PM »
I wouldn't advise it at all.  I good a pretty good size hand and the deepest I ever play on the cheetah on the fresh is like 12.  For me, the pattern is much more forgiving with a dull strong solid throwing it hard from around 8-9
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Re: hooking it on the cheetah
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2009, 05:06:01 PM »
Depends on which version of the Cheetah your bowling. The 08-09 36' version tends to play better in then out, but the 35' versions definitely play out, you can still score hooking it on the 35' Cheetah as long as your breakpoint is still outside.

But it depends on lane surface, oils and the player.
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Re: hooking it on the cheetah
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2009, 05:09:16 PM »
but i have found that on the one we bowl on when scores arent good out they are sky high in

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Re: hooking it on the cheetah
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2009, 05:33:28 PM »
It all depends on your ball roll...some high rev guys can't make the ball change direction without it flattening out on that pattern.  If that is the case you have to find a way to play up it (some use urethane).  You have to get the ball to read the friction...but not quit.
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Re: hooking it on the cheetah
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2009, 06:16:50 PM »
i have a rev rate and ball roll similar to chris barnes so what should i do with that

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Re: hooking it on the cheetah
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2009, 06:34:58 PM »
Take it on the PBA tour!

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Re: hooking it on the cheetah
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2009, 07:39:37 AM »
When the gutters aren't bouncing on the Cheetah (doesn't seem to be a problem with the new Cheetah, but definately a problem on the 08-09 season Cheetah), it's an evil oil pattern.  In practice, I was able to roll my Mars over 4 at the arrows to 2 at the breakpoint and bring it back high flush.  Unfortunately, I got stuck on a pair two weeks in a row in league where the gutters weren't hooking.  I wouldn't even touch the headpin throwing that line because the outsides were so tight.  Moving in, however, the pattern was jumping on the back pretty badly.  I FINALLY found a solution I liked (and just in time, I had to win at least two games the last week to win my league championship!).  I took my Dimension, a strong solid with a rolly core, and polished it by hand with Valentino's UFO extender polish.  The less aggressive response to friction downlane meant the ball went a couple feet longer, and also rolled off the spot instead of jumping off the spot.  I was able to move my breakpoint in closer to the headpin and play a more direct line with medium speed and a soft release.  I stuck with this a couple games until I created carrydown.  Then I switched to my Mars and brought my breakpoint back to the right a little, and used the carrydown as hold area.  I never had to move inside and took the slick outsides out of play this way.

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Re: hooking it on the cheetah
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2009, 08:50:06 AM »
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Take it on the PBA tour!

im 14 so thats not happening lol

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Re: hooking it on the cheetah
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2009, 11:14:25 AM »
i've thrown sanded plastic with success. other havent cared for it but it worked for me..

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Re: hooking it on the cheetah
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2009, 11:22:55 AM »
I agree with Dan, the '08-09 Cheetah is evil! Sometimes I could play straight up 4,5,6 and other weeks it was unplayable there - anything outside of 5 board went too far down the lane and anything from 15 to 5 was hooking too much. What finally worked for me was playing around 16-18 at the arrows out to 12-13 at the breakpoint with an Agent. Since you say you like straighter lines something like this could work for you. You'd just be playing a straighter line in the middle of the lane instead of the outside.

On the other versions of Cheetah I was always able to keep my breakpoint on the outside 3 boards. I'd just have to adjust where to lay the ball down at the arrows to get a good reaction. I was glad to hear they went back to the old Cheetah pattern for the upcoming season.

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Re: hooking it on the cheetah
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2009, 01:23:03 PM »
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i have a rev rate and ball roll similar to chris barnes so what should i do with that


Barnes has a ball roll that is made for playing straighter angles.  He can play in but not usually very far on shorter patterns.  On the All Star Shootout you could see him going from 15 out to 3 but his ball was stopping very early.  Any further in and his carry would have probably went away.
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