I just got back from a Ebonite/Hammer demo day and Bill Pursel put on a great sales pitch, Dave Wodka and Vince Wood helped out great on the lanes.

The Player did not arrive to test and there was no V2 dry to test and the Hammers were a flop IMHO ( I know I'll catch heck about that) with the exception of the Sling Blade.

But I bought in my Super Carbide and Cherry Bomb as my compare balls to the V2 Strong (great ball) Shooter XL and the other Hammer bowling balls.  I was on lane 1 and 2 and nobody could find the pocket with ANY of the bowling balls they were throwing, said the lanes were too dry and moved to a pair that had a lot more lane oil in the middle.  I tried the V2 strong a couple of times then took ou my Cherry Bomb and crushed the pocket time after time.  Everyone throwing Ebonite and Hammer bowling balls moved to another pair.  Then I moved even further left anmd used my Super carbide, Dave even stopped coming down, I was destroying the rack.  Once in a while I would throw the XL and the V2 Strong just to be fair, but the Cherry Bomb was just ripping the rack and making it look easy.  Then my Cherry Bomb didn't come back.  I called and I called and no one would answer.  I walked over to 3 and 4 and used their intercom to get the front desk, they answered, so I told them, ball on lane 2.  No luck.  I did not get that ball back for about 30 minutes, just so happened that was when the session ended.  I'm not saying anything funny was going on, but it sure was coincidental.  

Even though the Player was not there to try I ordered one (had to order becuase they didn't show at the demo) because I like the coverstock on the V2 solid and the propeller core.  I was suppose to get two bowling balls, one Ebonite and one Hammer for going to the Demo for pro shop owners/operators, but I donated the Hammer ball to the shop since they paid my entrance.

Has anyone else had similar experiences?

V/R,
Nicanor

DP3,
 How did the Blade particel compare to the Diesel Particle Pearl?
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Nic, I went to an Ebonite demo days a couple of years ago. The lanes were pretty juiced up. A buddy of mine was throwing all their stuff, without too much success. Their balls just went too long and he couldn't get lined up.

So, he pulled out his newly drilled Buzzsaw Carbide LRG, and just wheeled it. That ball just opened up the lane. He destroyed about 10 racks in a row, while the Ebonite guys just looked on. They said that Lane #1 makes great stuff, then they just went about their business. Oh well. =:^D

I was at the same demo days as BrianN.  Kendra, John, and the others were very helpful.  They had plenty of balls to throw, but the one I wanted to throw the most (Diesel Particle Pearl) was MIA.  I'm very picky about my fit, so I had a hard time getting a good read on the equipment.  They had plenty of tape, but there was no way to change the bevel.  I don't seem to match up with low RG stuff, so I thought everything they had rolled too early and everything hooked about the same.  Hit in general was below average.  I threw my own stuff often to keep a good feel, and to compare the hook shape and hit.  I didn't see anything I wanted to buy.  Nothing impressed me very much and the prices were high.  The $10 I paid for the demo days was money well spent.  I got to try a bunch of stuff without having to buy anything that didn't match up with me.
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Have to jump in for a comment .. I went to the DEMO DAYS in NC .. my first. LOVED IT. Although I didn't buy a ball while there .. shortly after my return I picked up the BLADE - PARTICLE .. very happy with it.

What I don't understand is NIC commenting on COSTS of HAMMER balls and talking about using LANE 1 balls .. LANE 1 balls are much more expensive and honestly .. the LANE 1 balls don't rate that PRICE!
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Nic .. I apologize for my misinterpreting.
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Hit them light and watch them fight
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Dragon,

I agree with your statement about Demo balls pin and cg placement.  I had several of my Ebonite balls drilled similar and they seemed to roll out/burn up (stop hooking like hook and set).

Both Vince Wood and Dave Wodka told me to put the pin above or below the ring finger and kick the CG out 45 degrees between the thumb and PAP and that would give me more length (drilling the Shooter).  I thought kicking the cg right toward the PAP helped induce roll to read the mid lane better not to give it added length.  Does the Ebonite bowling balls with the propeller weightblock induce length when the CG is kicked right 45 degrees from the pin?  It sounds like a 10:0 drilling to me which induces roll not length.  I'm confused.

V/R,
Nicanor

Nic, early roll can and does translate into more length. A ball that's rolling early, means that it won't jerk hard off the dry, hooking less. Less hook looks like it's going longer. So, a ball or drilling that has an early roll/less length, actually looks like more length on the lanes. =:^D

Edited on 7/23/2003 1:47 PM