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TamerBowling

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USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« on: March 30, 2010, 09:25:29 AM »
I thought some might find this article interesting since it seems to come up often enough.
http://tamerbowling.com/index.php/what-can-you-do-to-your-ball-while-bowling/

There are some references to USBC rules and new labeling they will require on cleaners and polishes come August 1st 2010.

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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2010, 05:44:11 PM »
I have been told of the possibility of being allowed to hand scuff balls after each game as long as you do it before the 1st frame that you bowl the following game.
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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2010, 06:05:03 PM »
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I have been told of the possibility of being allowed to hand scuff balls after each game as long as you do it before the 1st frame that you bowl the following game.

Per the USBC rules, you wouldn't be able to "scuff" the ball if it is via abralon or anything abrasive, unless it's on the approved cleaner list.

However, as many have said, and as USBC rules state, leagues can supplement the USBC rules and many are generally lenient.

I tell you, if you "scuff" the ball during any kind of tournament, other bowlers will not take kindly to it

The other thing you definitely can not do is treat the track area of the ball only!
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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2010, 06:14:42 PM »
Hold up....


So I see people saying Hook It is acceptable for use during competition yes it is.

BUT...are you also saying the rubbing compound 600 GRIT Liquid Sandpaper is also acceptable for use during league play?

Is this called Hook It Plus?  

People may get confused with the spray cleaner which is a reddish watery liquid without sand in it and doesn't require the dislodging of a metal ball inside of the bottle to shake it up.
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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2010, 06:51:19 PM »
JohnP,

Liquid Sandpaper has been available and on the list for 7-9 years or so. I remember a former teammate using it and thought it was illegal since it does contain a major amount of very abrasive material. Then I read the label. It's still legal.

If they missed the boat this time, they've missed it for a long time.

I'm not picking on you. This is just another example where they "missed the boat" for whatever reason, I cannot begin to guess.

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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2010, 06:52:41 PM »
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Here is a question with the rule. Are you allowed to polish a ball by hand during competition???
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You can if the polish used is on the "approved for use anytime" list.


Try Neo-Tac's Renew-it or Storm's Xtra Shine. Both will put a nice shine on by hand, if the surface isn't too rough to begin with. Those are only 2 examples. There are more.
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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2010, 06:56:18 PM »
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Hold up....


So I see people saying Hook It is acceptable for use during competition yes it is.

BUT...are you also saying the rubbing compound 600 GRIT Liquid Sandpaper is also acceptable for use during league play?


I saw Liquid Sandpaper on the list "Approved for use at any time".
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Is this called Hook It Plus?  

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It was called "Hook It Plus (Liquid Sandpaper)" and it was phrased in just this manner.

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People may get confused with the spray cleaner which is a reddish watery liquid without sand in it and doesn't require the dislodging of a metal ball inside of the bottle to shake it up.
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Maybe Liquid Sandpaper was originally called "Hook It Plus" because it contained both "Hook-It" and an abrasive in the liquid.
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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2010, 07:28:06 PM »
I always thought this rule was retarded and out of date since like the 80's. Who cares what you do to the ball during bowling. You can change the coverstock before bowling so really what advantage is it? What if you just switch balls? I mean I think the rules many moons ago never took into the account that people would ever bring more then one ball to a sanctioned event and back in the day there really was no purpose except the few really good or accurate bowlers that could see a difference in ball reaction by a board or 2.
So I could have one ball with a polished coverstock then if chosen could use the same brand of ball but with a different coverstock finish and that's ok? I don't see the difference really. If you really think the rule makes a difference then you don't know about the sport today because it really isn't that much of an advantage in the 21st century.
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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2010, 09:28:05 PM »
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I always thought this rule was retarded and out of date since like the 80's. Who cares what you do to the ball during bowling. You can change the coverstock before bowling so really what advantage is it? What if you just switch balls? I mean I think the rules many moons ago never took into the account that people would ever bring more then one ball to a sanctioned event and back in the day there really was no purpose except the few really good or accurate bowlers that could see a difference in ball reaction by a board or 2.
So I could have one ball with a polished coverstock then if chosen could use the same brand of ball but with a different coverstock finish and that's ok? I don't see the difference really. If you really think the rule makes a difference then you don't know about the sport today because it really isn't that much of an advantage in the 21st century.


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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2010, 09:50:34 PM »
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I always thought this rule was retarded and out of date since like the 80's. Who cares what you do to the ball during bowling. You can change the coverstock before bowling so really what advantage is it? What if you just switch balls? I mean I think the rules many moons ago never took into the account that people would ever bring more then one ball to a sanctioned event and back in the day there really was no purpose except the few really good or accurate bowlers that could see a difference in ball reaction by a board or 2.
So I could have one ball with a polished coverstock then if chosen could use the same brand of ball but with a different coverstock finish and that's ok? I don't see the difference really. If you really think the rule makes a difference then you don't know about the sport today because it really isn't that much of an advantage in the 21st century.


In general I'd agree with this, but if this was intended for when people only brought one ball to leagues and tournements, what is the sense of allowing people to shine the ball (while some polishing is prohibited, it specifically allows a person to use a Lustre King or its equivalent in the middle of bowling!) but not to sand or roughen the surface.
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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2010, 08:31:21 AM »
What about use of scotchbrite and abralon pads during practice?  I've always assumed that this was ok because the official competition hasn't actually begun. Is my assumption wrong?
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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2010, 08:58:30 AM »
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What about use of scotchbrite and abralon pads during practice?  I've always assumed that this was ok because the official competition hasn't actually begun. Is my assumption wrong?



Per the rule:

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a. Cleaning – Cleaners approved for use anytime may be utilized before, during or after certified competition Cleaners approved for only before and after certified competition may only be used during these times.

b. Sanding – You are permitted to sand the surface of your bowling balls prior to certified competition, however, the use of abrasives is strictly prohibited once the first ball is thrown in the competition.

c. Polishing – You are permitted to polish the surface of your bowling ball prior to certified competition. However, once tournament or league play begins, the use of a ball spinner is strictly prohibited only an automated, self-contained polishing machine may be used.



To me, that means you can alter as much as you want during practice, but not after the first bowler throws a ball.  Not before you throw your first ball, but the first bowler on either team.....as that is the start of the competition.
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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2010, 09:35:59 AM »
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What about use of scotchbrite and abralon pads during practice?  I've always assumed that this was ok because the official competition hasn't actually begun. Is my assumption wrong?



Per the rule:

18/2
 When may I alter the surface of my bowling ball?

a. Cleaning – Cleaners approved for use anytime may be utilized before, during or after certified competition Cleaners approved for only before and after certified competition may only be used during these times.

b. Sanding – You are permitted to sand the surface of your bowling balls prior to certified competition, however, the use of abrasives is strictly prohibited once the first ball is thrown in the competition.

c. Polishing – You are permitted to polish the surface of your bowling ball prior to certified competition. However, once tournament or league play begins, the use of a ball spinner is strictly prohibited only an automated, self-contained polishing machine may be used.



To me, that means you can alter as much as you want during practice, but not after the first bowler throws a ball.  Not before you throw your first ball, but the first bowler on either team.....as that is the start of the competition.


Yeah, I always treated this like practice during a Regional and just alter the surface as needed during practice, but once scoring starts it's hands off outside of my microfiber towel.
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Re: USBC rules for altering the surface of the ball
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2010, 10:31:57 AM »
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What about use of scotchbrite and abralon pads during practice?  I've always assumed that this was ok because the official competition hasn't actually begun. Is my assumption wrong?



Per the rule:

18/2
 When may I alter the surface of my bowling ball?

a. Cleaning – Cleaners approved for use anytime may be utilized before, during or after certified competition Cleaners approved for only before and after certified competition may only be used during these times.

b. Sanding – You are permitted to sand the surface of your bowling balls prior to certified competition, however, the use of abrasives is strictly prohibited once the first ball is thrown in the competition.

c. Polishing – You are permitted to polish the surface of your bowling ball prior to certified competition. However, once tournament or league play begins, the use of a ball spinner is strictly prohibited only an automated, self-contained polishing machine may be used.



To me, that means you can alter as much as you want during practice, but not after the first bowler throws a ball.  Not before you throw your first ball, but the first bowler on either team.....as that is the start of the competition.


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