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EL

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Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« on: September 11, 2009, 01:06:14 AM »
Okay, bowling in a new league where the bowling alley uses synthetic approaches. I have been bowling on wood approaches since I started bowling which was quite a long time ago. The first week I was sticking all over the place. Being a stroker, I need my slide. Afraid of fouling and falling over my face I could not get my timing together. I have a pair of the Dynoroozs Shufflers, since I shuffle my feet on my approach. I have always used the 4 sole and the hard heel. This week, I switched to the #3 chrome sole and the orange heel and I was still sticking and slipping (I guess from the orange heel). End result, fouled twice, once hopping over the line, the other falling over the line with my finger holding me up. Oh also fell on my back during practice because I slide too much. I have ordered a Dexter felt sole (number 10) for next week. Question is how would you tackle this problem? I stick sometimes and slip the other times. Help!!!!

 

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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2009, 09:13:09 AM »
Just keep experimenting with different heel/sole combinations.  I've found that slicker soles with stickier heels works pretty good when the approaches get flakey.  Anything you do will take getting used to, though.  Try to get there to practice before next week.

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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2009, 09:14:06 AM »
Try a small piece of teflon thumb tape on the leading edge of your heel to get a more consistent slide.  Experiment with how much of the edge is covered with the tape since a little bit might go a long way.
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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2009, 09:16:22 AM »
I would recommend a slidesock.  I've used one for several years and find it very consistent from house to house.  The one I use was purchased from http://www.bowlersslidesock.com/ the link is in Smash49 profile and signature.  By far the best slidesock i've ever tried/used!

Send him a pm for more info.

BTW, I use the sock on my Dexter SST6 LX.  Combinations of sole and heel was too inconsistent for me from house to house.

On another note, you bowling at 34th Ave?

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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2009, 09:28:31 AM »
Thanks for the tips guys, I'll try some of it out next week.

FBM, I'm going to avoid the sock for now. I was going to buy one last week and try it but my ball driller told me to change to a felt sole first and try that. No, I am not bowling at 34th. I'm out in the Island, this year I'm bowling at Wantagh Lanes and so far I hate the approach.

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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2009, 09:37:44 AM »
Try using your fav/regular sole and alternate heels until. I had this problem a few years back with my Dexters. I switched to the ribbed heel and it cured my sticking problem. I was able to get my normal slide back....9
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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2009, 09:38:46 AM »
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No, I am not bowling at 34th. I'm out in the Island, this year I'm bowling at Wantagh Lanes and so far I hate the approach.


It's been a minute since I've thrown out there.  I sub at East Meadow and frequent South Levittown Lanes (visit several other houses on the Island as well).  Good luck with your approach problem.  By far my biggest fear, especially after having knee surgery many years ago (football related injury).

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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2009, 09:39:51 AM »
9 ... what up?

Still throwing the pill huh?  You still at RVC?

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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2009, 12:11:48 PM »
I started using a pair of Dynarooz Sport Ultras.  I have noticed a difference from my Etonic ESL Classics.  I like the waffle heel and Bowlers Slide Sock Premier I combination.  I have a Gold Encore I and a Black Premier I that I am using now.  The waffle heel has less drag and is smoother for me.  Slick, tacky, wood or synthetic does not matter as far as sliding.  Stopping the interchangeable heels do matter(For Now).  We do have a product in R&D that is so far successful at handling most heel issues.  The heel factor in sliding is far more complex than the sole part.  

It's funny.  We were talking with Dexter a few years ago at a trade show and they said they tried using our materials to make a slide sole and it didn't work.  It's not the material that makes it work.  We are the only company that has a product designed specifically for the wide foot print interchangeable soled shoes (Premier II Line).  They asked why do you need it?  Because our customers asked for it.  The Bowlers Slide Sock is not equal to a 4,6,8,10 sole it is correct no matter what condition.  So I guess it is a 4 1/2, 6 1/2... when it needs to be.  Every Bowlers Slide Sock is laser cut, precision sewn and crafted in the USA.  Simply the World's finest bowling shoe sliding device made!

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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2009, 01:28:02 PM »
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Thanks for the tips guys, I'll try some of it out next week.

FBM, I'm going to avoid the sock for now. I was going to buy one last week and try it but my ball driller told me to change to a felt sole first and try that. No, I am not bowling at 34th. I'm out in the Island, this year I'm bowling at Wantagh Lanes and so far I hate the approach.


Edward,

I'd have to agree 110% with Vern about the Bowlers' Slide Sock. It has to be one of the best and most consistent methods of having a safe approach that I have ever seen. To say they are consistent is a major understatement. Once broken-in (they do need some sliding on a rug to break them in), they were THE single most consistent sliding mechanism ai have ever used or even tried. And I have trouble sliding. (Once I even stuck at the BTM many years ago using 4 teflon pucks!! I've worked my way beyond that problem.)

Seriously for their small price, they're worth their weight in gold. And no, I'm neither a friend of the owners nor an investor.

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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 02:08:49 PM »
Thanks Charlest!

Just a side note.  There are a lot of socks out there.  Most of them use a flannel or felt bottom that wears out quickly.  We do not.  The Bowlers Slide Sock is a completely different animal.  The materials we use for our soles are heavy duty and last.  Felt and flannel are unpredictable and just plain slick.  Many pro shops do not know the difference but there is a very big one.  Even though we sell in Europe, Asia, South America and North America many pro shops only deal with the AMF or Ebonite socks.  This is probably because of the name.  We have one distributor in the United States and they are Classic Product based in Indiana, Texas and Florida.  We also sell direct.  We have been in business providing our product for over 10 years.  Our first customers were the editors and writers of Bowling This Month Magazine and SASBA Tour members. Back in those days Jim King would order on a custom order basis and keep them at the SASBA table.  

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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2009, 02:12:00 PM »
a deeper knee bend will lower your center of gravity and will help. i have had this same problem before and a lower slide fixed the problem.
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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2009, 02:21:52 PM »
hey there, i bowl on both type of approaches, one thing i do before i even start bowling, incl shadow bowling, is that i walk the approaches, to get the feel of them.  im also a stroker/tweener, and im very dependant on my footwork so i always check the approaches, from gutter to gutter, especially the last 3 feet or so to check for tackiness.  i look for footprints, etc.  if i find a sticky part, i just wipe it down with my towel.  also experiement with your sole/heel combo.  one thing i also notice is that when you switch to new soles and heels, they may give you more brake or slide than you expect, but once you break them in, they beoome a little more consistant from week to week.  but very important "at least to me"  when you start your shadow bowling, take your first few shots slowly, to see what the approaches are like, and adjust from there.  sometimes its easier to adjust your footwork a pinch, by starting slowly and building up to regular speed.  it usually takes me a couple of ball on each lane to get the feel of the lanes.  oh.. also pay attention to what they do to the approaches before you bowl, i.e. do they mop then down before bowling, lay powder on them, use spray cleaner, etc.  i knew a house that would mop the approachs down before bowling, and then run a dust mop with what seemed like easy slide on the lanes.  and some houses use some type of spray, maybe furniture polish or silicone based spray to clean the sticky spots.  
SO CHECK THE APPROACHES BEFORE YOU BOWL.  


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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2009, 03:11:03 PM »
Many thanks for the input and advice all. I will try them all. I will try the felt sole first and see if I can handle them. If not, looks like the next thing would be a Bowlers Slide sock.

Charlest, actually 25 years ago we did use a white long tube sock and place it over our bowling shoes to get the extra slide. We used to play around and used the sock on our left foot so we can bowl lefty (we were righties). Oh how bowling as changed

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Re: Help!!! Synthetic approaches....
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2009, 03:29:31 PM »
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Many thanks for the input and advice all. I will try them all. I will try the felt sole first and see if I can handle them. If not, looks like the next thing would be a Bowlers Slide sock.

Charlest, actually 25 years ago we did use a white long tube sock and place it over our bowling shoes to get the extra slide. We used to play around and used the sock on our left foot so we can bowl lefty (we were righties). Oh how bowling as changed


Regular socks are nothing like the Slide Socks.
I know of bowlers who carried a whole selection of socks. With some of today's soles, you don't need to do that, but I have see many users of Dexter and Dexter like soles who need something in between. One teammate went thru almost one slide a night this past season, so desperate he was for something that wouldn't stick too much or slip too much.

Don't know what the Slide Sock is so consistent, but it is, what Dexters aren't, for some people.
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