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mainzer

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help with guardian and ball returns
« on: January 09, 2009, 03:47:50 AM »
I am bowling at a house with over the top returns, Guardian heads and and flying wood backends. My issue is I can't get deep enough with the ball return next to me to keep the ball inside far enough. Any suggestions? I have been used a HFP their last night and a nice look but couldn't capitilize when the lanes transitioned. I have tried breaking my wrist and have had mild sucess with that but nothing great. Last resort is a old Sting Ray C sitting in the basement and I am very close to going and getting it.
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 11:53:18 AM »
Throw the Sting Ray, I bet you'll be surprised.
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 12:03:45 PM »
You throw 16#?  I have a Gunsmoke Cobra that would probably work on that.
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 12:04:14 PM »
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You throw 16#?  I have a Gunsmoke Cobra that would probably work on that.
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sorry 15
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 12:39:11 PM »
On guardian I've found that lofting the heads is a very effective  way to control your break point.

Edited on 1/9/2009 1:41 PM
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polaris1050

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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 12:39:39 PM »
I now throw 15 too.....that's why it's still sitting around.
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 02:04:11 PM »
Sometimes a weak old ball works best. I keep a navy Blue reactive Hammer just for such occasions. Try the Stingray.
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 04:14:23 PM »
I would probably be throwing my XXXL, or going 3 step in front of the ball return, but pulling out an old Stingray is a very good idea.
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 04:17:48 PM »
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I would probably be throwing my XXXL, or going 3 step in front of the ball return, but pulling out an old Stingray is a very good idea.


He can't go infront of the ball returns because they are above ground.
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tenpin477

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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 05:59:19 PM »
then plastic or old old weak equipment it is.
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2009, 07:58:17 AM »
Gary,

I've seen you bowl there.

Actually TAKE your HAND out of the ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then try it!!!!!!!!!

I've seen you try and break your wrist there but at the bottom you still clobber it.

Try spinning it more might work like Schlepe.
OR use more surface and use up the balls energy earlier.
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009, 08:09:17 AM »
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Gary,

I've seen you bowl there.

Actually TAKE your HAND out of the ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then try it!!!!!!!!!

I've seen you try and break your wrist there but at the bottom you still clobber it.

Try spinning it more might work like Schlepe.
OR use more surface and use up the balls energy earlier.
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Edited on 1/10/2009 9:00 AM

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YEAH YEAH! I know I still rip it pretty good at the bottom, I have been working on getting my rev rate down a bit at T&O, But the last few weeks we have bowled they have werid, had a brutal over under one week, ended up using a Primal Rage pin over ring and turning it they way I normally do, the week after nothing stayed right, Dusty used his plastic ball and went inside of third arrow and out 5 or 6 at the break and it left him a stone nine pin.

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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2009, 08:14:17 AM »
So, what happens if you use your MoJave inside at T&O?
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2009, 08:37:08 AM »
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So, what happens if you use your MoJave inside at T&O?
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over under early in the night, I am going to try it again next week though they have been SO much dry the last couple of league nights their, the last game with the MoJave their is usually gold for me as their is enough of hole blowen into the track to just lob it into and watch it bounce.

The first game and a half two games for me their are just a disaster, I can't find anything consistent and dependable week to week, which is why I am asking for suggestions.

The League and the house is hella fun though even though I am bowling terrible I have a ton of fun, I will definitly be back next season for this league and house it is way to much fun to walk away from. Actually this is the most fun I have ever had in league ever even though I am bowling like a bundering novice.
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2009, 08:45:47 AM »
Take older equipment and go straighter.
Let the others push the oil down the lane.
Then switch in game 2.

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