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mainzer

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help with guardian and ball returns
« on: January 09, 2009, 03:47:50 AM »
I am bowling at a house with over the top returns, Guardian heads and and flying wood backends. My issue is I can't get deep enough with the ball return next to me to keep the ball inside far enough. Any suggestions? I have been used a HFP their last night and a nice look but couldn't capitilize when the lanes transitioned. I have tried breaking my wrist and have had mild sucess with that but nothing great. Last resort is a old Sting Ray C sitting in the basement and I am very close to going and getting it.
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2009, 08:48:59 AM »
Then, I'd go with what Mike suggests a weaker type ball with some surface to cut down on the over/under til they transition which is why the MoJave works after transition I'd assume.  

I think Mike although a wrongsider used to use an RG Saturn which is the type of ball I'd use on that condition.  Medium ball with lower differential and not a lot of flare.  Tight flare lines.  

I bowled in two older houses like T&O.  Waterloo and the old Arcadia in Ft. Atkinson before they tore it down.  Both called for equipment like this.  

Good luck!

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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2009, 08:59:31 AM »
I used to use a 2in. pin Saturn there.
Before that a Command Zone Arc.
I was still deeper than 95% of the bowlers in that house.

Or grab your MOST hooking ball and roll it out at 50 ft.

This will work there too.
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2009, 09:01:15 AM »
Yep and using older equipment on old wood lanes you stand less of a chance of getting your new stuff beat up.  
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2009, 05:15:36 PM »
See if you can get hold of an old Black Hammer urethane (original).  --  JohnP
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2009, 06:14:31 PM »
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See if you can get hold of an old Black Hammer urethane (original).  --  JohnP


Well I brought one to my Pro Shop but it had been plugged and drilled about 3 times, and was cracking in a few of the plugs so we tossed it.
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2009, 10:42:41 PM »
yea above ground ball returns suck.  wreaks havoc on my 7 pin conversions when im on the left lane lol

but i also have found trouble going deep when the lanes transition.  
so i bought a old *** orange warlock.  works like money
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2009, 11:24:55 PM »
http://lss.bowl.com/bowl/BowlDotCom/common/standings/standings.html?league=25138&page=1  

Mainzer,

I still see some very high scores and averages in this house, maybe you should ask those high average hacks with the 230 averages whats their secret?

If all else fails, stand on the left lane and loft the overlane ball return
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2009, 11:43:53 PM »
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http://lss.bowl.com/bowl/BowlDotCom/common/standings/standings.html?league=25138&page=1  

Mainzer,

I still see some very high scores and averages in this house, maybe you should ask those high average hacks with the 230 averages whats their secret?

If all else fails, stand on the left lane and loft the overlane ball return


Bass is one of the heavy hitters out their bro. What is your real name? I have a feeling I know you, did I meet you at Sabre Lanes once upon a time?
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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2009, 11:48:09 PM »
get a rayzr... balls awesome

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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2009, 06:47:38 AM »
Let's see Josh D. throws a tired out Barb Wire.

Dennis Z. plays the track area with virtually no hand.

Jeff S. has killed that place for years throwing a WOW.


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Re: help with guardian and ball returns
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2009, 10:30:01 AM »
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Let's see Josh D. throws a tired out Barb Wire.

Dennis Z. plays the track area with virtually no hand.

Jeff S. has killed that place for years throwing a WOW.


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I am bringing my Urethane Sting Ray to Timmy next week, I have enough hand to get that back no probs Tim will complain but oh well I pay him often and well and brag him up to everyone.
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