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Hex017

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Thinking about my game and my arsenal. Come help me out.
« on: April 04, 2005, 10:05:51 AM »
I could not put this under any one company because I have opened my mind to try anything that looks good for me. I have been taking a good look over my game and looking at some of the things I need work on and more importantly the things I do well.

Things I do well: Rev it up fairly easily, quite accurate, good balance, I can play straight up or swing it

Things I need to work on: Ball speed it is horribly slow but I get inaccurate AND uncomfortable when I use a longer backswing or try to muscle it. I drift more than I'd like, and I suck at reading lanes for some reason even though I know more than anyone on my team, go figure. Also I have a tendency to turn the ball too early in the downswing.

I am going to really try to get a vid of myself up soon but only lady luck will be able to really give me a helping hand.

Anyway I have heard it 100 times it is the bowler not the ball and I am a firm believer in this but I am starting to wonder why my avg has not yet increased despite all the learning I've done and help I've gotten. I think it may be the horrible set up and layouts of my arsenal. Why? You'll see. I read Ricks post on stacked leverage drillings and how they are sort of one dimensional you need to have a good coverstock with it and use it when the lanes call for it. Well lets take a look at my arsenal.


Heavy- Power Diesel, 4 1/2 from my P.A.P. with the CG stacked under the pin
Med-Heavy- Animal Untamed, stacked 3 3/8
Med-Heavy- Eraser Blaze, stacked 3 3/8
Med-Thrash, pin under not sure on exact drilling though
Med-Dry- Track Hex, stacked 3 3/8
Spares- white dot, works good enough

Favorite ball BY FAR: Track Hex, so smooth yet strong, works great on lanes in transition but I must admit it is sort of tough to use on dry lanes.

Power Diesel works good on oil, and oil only. My hex was my first real ball and I loved it which led me to drilling a lot of the other balls I own stacked. I think this was stupid of me.

Now my style is a slow speed med-high rev player with above average footwork and quite good accuracy, accuracy is my strong point but pin carry and speed is not so they sort of cross eachother out leaving me with my 181 avg. I was thinking since I am best when keeping my speed around 12-13 and reving it up shouldn't I be using equipment that lets me do that? Only balls that gives me any hope of playing that way is my HeX unless the lanes got quite some oil on them but then I usually just use my diesel because I hate the way everything inbetween rolls. Should I consider redrilling most of my equipment, I do not have the cash to buy a bunch of new stuff right now so maybe I could redrill them and mess with the coverstocks and see if I can get some better reactions? My main problem usually is one of two things. Either the ball has just not enough length and hooks through to early or the ball burns all its energy in the heads and by the time it reaches the breakpoint it rolls out or hits like a marshmellow.

I could really use some help with what I should do next now that I am actually starting to feel better with my ball grip, I bowled 50+ games this week and didn't blister which is amazing for me, great feeling. Now to more serious problems. Any help or comments are appreciated from anyone and I'm hoping for some suggestions possible layouts or just anything. Let me know guys I am sick of my 180 avg and it's going to be 200 before next season life or death. (And yes I'm getting coaching during the summer so that will help.) Sorry for the book.

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Re: Thinking about my game and my arsenal. Come help me out.
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2005, 07:11:15 PM »
Your summer coach should be able to make some suggestions as to your equipment, at least as far as checking your span and fit.  If the coach can not help you with layout and equipment selection (hey, some coaches are awesome at mechanics, but may not be an expert on layouts), you should work with a competent pro shop to get your bases covered.

To me, the biggest question would be: where and what are you planning to bowl?  If you're bowling in the same few centers all the time, all you likely need is two balls, your spare ball, and your coach. (not necessarily in that order)

Don't take this the wrong way - with a 180 average, you should be working on your spares and increasing your pocket percentage.  Is your goal to be a better bowler or to own more equipment?  The catch-phrase "matching up" with your equipment generally has more to do with carry than getting to the hole.  

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Edited on 4/4/2005 7:06 PM

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Re: Thinking about my game and my arsenal. Come help me out.
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2005, 07:40:45 PM »
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Your summer coach should be able to make some suggestions as to your equipment, at least as far as checking your span and fit.  If the coach can not help you with layout and equipment selection (hey, some coaches are awesome at mechanics, but may not be an expert on layouts), you should work with a competent pro shop to get your bases covered.

To me, the biggest question would be: where and what are you planning to bowl?  If you're bowling in the same few centers all the time, all you likely need is two balls, your spare ball, and your coach. (not necessarily in that order)

Don't take this the wrong way - with a 180 average, you should be working on your spares and increasing your pocket percentage.  Is your goal to be a better bowler or to own more equipment?  The catch-phrase "matching up" with your equipment generally has more to do with carry than getting to the hole.
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I think you sort of what I think I was looking for. I bowl in about 7 houses around this area and plan on bowling sport shot this summer to see what it is really like. I understand more is not better, and matching up is, yet I feel like I don't match up with anything except my hex and power diesel. Sometimes my thrash is good but usually it is just to unpredictable. And yes spares are definently getting worked on, especially that good ol ten pin but to tell you truth the thing that kills my games more than anything is well...splits. Last saturday I threw a total of 7 splits in 3 games, 4 in the first game. Hitting the pocket normally is not a problem but when I am not there I never catch a break it seems. Splits galore or some multipin spares that I seem to always manage a way to chop off. I assume my 12-13 mph speed is the reason this, but I am not quite sure. Perhaps I should be asking for suggestions on different layouts or how to stop throwing so many splits?

Edited on 4/4/2005 7:06 PM
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-I will forever love this great game, I love the people and the competition, I only wish the best would get the recognition of an ATHLETE that they deserve.


Edited on 4/4/2005 7:35 PM

Edited on 4/4/2005 7:35 PM

janderson

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Re: Thinking about my game and my arsenal. Come help me out.
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2005, 02:36:43 PM »
Of course different layouts will give you a different look.  I don't think I could survive on tour/tournaments with a leverage layout on all of my stuff, we face a wide variety of different conditions.

Each piece of equipment should have a specific purpose that differs from every other piece of equipment.  Most of us have one or more "favorite" layouts.  They're "favorite" because we've found that they work well with our physical game and the lane conditions we face.  There is and should be (in my opinion) some trial and error in the process of finding out what works for you.  Experience is the best teacher.  You really do not know what a given ball/surface/core/layout combination is going to do for you on any condition until you throw it on that condition.  "Should do" is often disproven by the actual performance.

As such, I can share my experiences with you but you must realize that what works for me may not work for you.  Remember also that I'm an active tournament bowler that bowls in everything from penny-ante no-tap tournaments to PBA and mega-bucks tournaments.  What layouts I use, in order from most common to least common.  Any newer bowlers reading this post, a stated number-x-number, such as 5x4 is way of explaning layout in terms of how far your pin is from your positive axis point (aka PAP) and how far your center of gravity (aka Cg) is from your positive axis point.

5x4 or 10:30 or 45-degree layout
Typically accompanied by a small weighthole on my PAP, this is more of a control drill (than say, a stacked laverage) that promotes length with hard arc.  I've scored well with this layout on typical house shots and I've cashed with this layout in a regional PBA event on pattern C (scorpion).  For me, it is the best all-around layout. You can tweak the length with coverstock changes and the strength by your selection of core.  You can also tweak the length by placing the pin above or below the finger bridge, also effectively moving the CG above or below your grip center.  Variations on this drill can include 5.5x4.5 or 6x5 (you should get the general gist here) to reduce flare if necessary on higher Radius of Gyration (Rg) differential (Diff) balls.  My experiences have shown that this layout works best on reactive solids or particles (any).

2x5 or 2:00 or 105-degree layout
This is something I use when a want more of a skid/flip reaction than the above, though it is not as strong of a skid/flip as a stacked leverage (12:00/75-degree) layout.  In fact, this is what I typically use when most other bowlers are using stacked leverage equipment.  With a pin only 2 inches from the PAP reduces the flare (compared to stacked) and helps the ball rev up sooner by using the lower-rg orientation of the weight block.  This helps mellow out the break point.  This type of layout, especially on a reactive pearl, helps me take advantage of a house shot or open up a mild crown that has a little recovery to the outside.  Variations on the drill include 2.5x5 or 3x6 again, moving the pin to get more or less flare as needed.  You can also use a weight hole to tweak flare as this layout does not generally need a weighthole if you start with a 3+ inch pin-out.  This drill on a particle helps blend out a lateral wet-dry or over-under house shot.  Personally, I find this works best on reactive pearls or particle solids.

0x5 or 0-degree or Pin-on-Pap layout
Although I don't see many bowlers using this type of layout, I have had much success with it.  More than any other layout, the ball is going to rev-up early and the reaction is going to be a predictable, bannana-shaped arc.  I use coverstock and/or core combinations to control the length.  This is a great layout for controlling jumpy or messy backends.  This type of layout worked pretty well for me (to the tune of 46 strikes over 9 games) in Reno last year at the ABC nationals. For me, it works on any type of coverstock, though I usually prefer low-Rg cores and polished covers.  Also, I look for longer pin-outs to avoid balance holes - I don't want this to flare.

5x2 or "10:00" or 25-degree layout
Hard, early arc for controlling the backend.  Typically with a hole on or inside the PAP to make the ball legal and/or enhance the flare, this type of layout is good for playing down and in from outside lines such as PBA pattern E (cheetah) and early on pattern A (Viper).  It helps reduce the entry angle to where it needs to be when your breakpoint is naturally further from the pocket.  I've also had success on taming extreme lateral over-under on house shots with this, using the ball's natural tendancy to want to burn up to control the snap from the outside.  This layout on a Storm Core Power LRG with a dull surface is a gem - I don't care what conditions you're bowling on and what you do to the ball, it will not snap.  Again, surface alteration and core selection can help you with the length.  As with 45-degree layout, this works best for me on reactive solids or particles (any).

4.5x5.5 or 1:30 or 90-degree layout
Generally more skid/flip than 2x5/2:00/105-degree, I generally only need this type of equipment when there are problems with carrydown.  Most of the time, I only have 1 or 2 balls in my entire arsenal laid out this way.  On clean backends and lateral wet-dry, this layout (as well as stacked leverage, but even more so) only exaggerates release and speed mistakes.  I need the oil on the backends to help tame that overreaction down.  This works on just about any coverstock though reactive pearls will accentuate the breakpoint and particles will help smooth it out.

Others
This is "niche" equipment.  Although it seems to be quite popular with Joe Bowler, stacked leverage has found its way onto only one of my balls.  It sees (very) limited action on certain house shots.  On the opposite side of the spectrum, I have one ball with a 315-degree/7:30 layout that I use for extreme dry and inverted patterns.

Well, there you go.  I hope this helps you in some way.  If you have any questions, fire away.
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Hex017

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Re: Thinking about my game and my arsenal. Come help me out.
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2005, 07:19:14 PM »
Thank you so much for the layout run through, I think my driller could learn a few things from this.......Anyway I guess the question would be what would be a good ball/layout combo in your opinion for a med oil THS? Personally I like Track but I'm definently open to anything. Also what would be something to help me play my current league shot. They oil it very well in the middle, not so much that you can't play it but it will not carry well and they leave the outsides Bone Dry. Maybe something that will really tame down the backends and let me use the outsides? I'm not sure so that's why I'm asking. Thanks a million though, definently helping me take a step in the right direction.
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-If you're not willing to change, you're not willing to improve.

-Life is like a coin, you can spend it any way you want, but you can only spend it once.

-I will forever love this great game, I love the people and the competition, I only wish the best would get the recognition of an ATHLETE that they deserve.