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BAPS_Eric

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High Performance vs. Mid performance
« on: February 28, 2005, 02:05:20 PM »
I have been using mostly Mid-Performance balls all my life and have yet to see why I would need a ball with the cover and weight blocks of some of the supposed higher performance balls....the reason I posted this is many bowlers I have drilled equipment for (mostly the higher performance stuff) have trouble keeping a consistant reaction.....I mean most of them come in and tell me to do this that and the other and this layout or that layout and other stuff and they seem to struggle...and yes I tell them that the layout wouldn't be good for the type of reaction they are wanting...but they tell me that's what they want and I drill it.....there are a couple that I have drilled just a basic label shift and those perform better.....to me the predictabibility of a ball is what I want and unforunately people with more money than skill throw the more "hooking" balls....so should we as pro-shop employees put a higher-standard on the higher-performance ball to those who actually have some skill or continue to sell them to those who don't and have a big wallet....
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mumzie

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Re: High Performance vs. Mid performance
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2005, 10:13:21 PM »
I prefer a mid range ball for most things, and suggest that other bowlers do the same.
High end stuff seems to be far too condition specific for me.
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BAPS_Eric

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Re: High Performance vs. Mid performance
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2005, 10:13:49 PM »
Well I can understand that....but is that really the level of customer service that we should be providing....I mean its not good to sit there and watch a bowler struggle with what they have in their hands is too strong or doesn't match up with an RG rating to their style of bowling or a handful of other things.....I mean isn't it just more of the ball companies faults for producing balls that are too much and not putting some type of rating system on it...I mean seriously wouldn't that be better so we can match up bowler and ball and layout better....

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Re: High Performance vs. Mid performance
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2005, 10:22:57 PM »
It isn't the ball that is unpredictable...

It is the operator.....

High Performance means the ball and the OPERATOR I tend to think.

Throw the ball well...the ball does as it is supposed to...
Don't throw it well...it won't do what it is supposed to...

Mid price....you have leeway with release and such..(like a THS)
High Performance....Sport Pattern....make good consistant shots and well do well...don't....and let the struggle begin...

As for the selling part....

I am a firm believer in giving the people what they want. I will make a suggesetion to them, but if they ignore it, then that is there choice...
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Re: High Performance vs. Mid performance
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2005, 10:26:13 PM »
Thanks Greg7.....I just don't understand some people though....just like you said the ball looks like gold on TV and people want it.....something very funny bout the PBA that I wish they would do is not showing what equipment they are using....they really need to do that.....but back to the point....I have seen people struggle with equipment that they don't need and then buy another high-end ball that doesn't suit them well either.....but I guess selling the more expensive stuff is better and makes more money.....the line we have to make is which is better "Money or Level of Service"....and sometimes we forget that....even me when I see someone looking at The Real Deal for instance....then I have to put a weak drilling on it which completely defeats the purpose of buying a ball like that.....
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Re: High Performance vs. Mid performance
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2005, 10:51:12 PM »
Yeah and that is what I am talking about.....the people with quote "No-Hand" are the people that are the some of the only ones going to benefit from the high-end stuff.....but like Greg7 said throwing a Super Carbide Bomb or Raging Inferno for that matter on a medium to medium dry pattern for the average bowler is not where it is at....
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Re: High Performance vs. Mid performance
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2005, 10:53:20 PM »
Only problem is that a rather interesting trend is developing around here.  The local pro shops are jacking up the prices of the mid-range balls, to where they are just below the prices for the premiums.

An example:  The other day, I saw a Punisher on display for $179, right next to an Absolute Inferno for $189.
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Re: High Performance vs. Mid performance
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2005, 10:56:40 PM »
Hmmmm....something fishy going on there....
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Re: High Performance vs. Mid performance
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2005, 11:41:45 PM »
It may not be fishy, maybe his supplier is getting him AI at much better prices than the less in demand punisher.

If i could find a AI drilled for 189 out the door, i would be all over it.
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Re: High Performance vs. Mid performance
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2005, 09:26:52 AM »
my pro shop charges $140-145 for a mid-price ball and $200-220 for a premium ball( this includes drilling and varies a little ). i like the reaction i get from both types of balls. brunswicks mid-priced balls use differnt weightblock designs and older generation coverstocks. most of these were used in previous versions of their high performance balls. i'm very comfortable with this type of set-up. if fall leagues were getting ready to start i'd be getting a absolute inferno from the high performance line and a nemesis and punisher from the mid-price line.