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stanski

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High performance vs. mid price
« on: August 12, 2004, 07:17:21 AM »
I read a post earlier by charlest where he mentions high performance balls not performing any better than mid-priced balls. What are all of your opinions on this?

Personally, I have owned both high performance and mid performance balls, and have never seen a difference in hit, carry, or average. High performance balls do seem to hook more on average, but i think that is a marketing strategy of companies. Currently in my arsenal i have 2 high performance balls, 5 mid performance, and one spare ball. I just wanted to see what everybody thought about the differences between the two ball categories.
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Re: High performance vs. mid price
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2004, 12:03:38 AM »
Alot of the cost in the Highend market is consumed by the R&D. like already previously stated the midprice balls are usually slightly older technology( from the brunswick example). Me, personally there are some real bang for the buck balls in the most of the major company line ups. SmashR comes to mind.
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Re: High performance vs. mid price
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2004, 01:42:20 AM »
it seems to me, from what ive heard, that the only reason alot of balls are higher priced than the "lower lines" of a company is because the materials and production are more expensive than the lower lines.  obviously, this higher price has RARELY been seen to create any advantages on the lanes.  brian himmler won a pba event with a hot wire, and i am sure he is not the only one who has thrown a mid range ball on the tour this year and won.
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Re: High performance vs. mid price
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2004, 02:23:43 AM »
Personaly I think it is true mid performance performs as good as high performance. However, I think the big diffrence between the two is high end balls are for specific lane conditions and mid performance can be used on almost all conditions.
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Re: High performance vs. mid price
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2004, 02:58:29 AM »
Brunswick300 makes a good observation.  The mid price line has stuff that can be used for a variety of conditions.  You can take one ball and use it on different conditions based on drilling and cover prep.  High end stuff no matter how you lay it out and prep the cover, can only be used for heavier conditions.  If you take away the strokers, high end sales may be virtually non-existent.  Call me crazy, but here is a good example.  Visionary has a ball called the Green Gargoyle that, on a medium condition, hits as hard as anything I have ever thrown.  It gets through the heads really clean and has a sharp move on the backend.  The reason I use this ball as an example, is because I have had the ball now for 3 years, and it still remains my go to ball.  I have had no resufacing done to this ball outside basic ball maintenance, such as removing polish every 2-3 months with scotchbrite and polishing back up with Storm 3 or Clean and Sheen.  After 3 years, this ball still has no lack of backend movement and hits as hard as anything I have drilled up in the past couple months.  BTW.......the Gargoyle retails for $140 range.  Another thing....I cant recall too many centers laying down patterns more than 40 feet, either.  The standard pattern length for a bowling center is oil to 32-35 feet, with buff to 38, normally give or take.  My center oils to 32 feet.  Why the need for stuff that starts flaring the moment it leaves your hand?  I definitely think that taking a few mid priced balls and using different layouts and cover preparation is plenty for most of todays conditions.
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Re: High performance vs. mid price
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2004, 03:35:49 AM »
I think one high performance ball per arsenal is a good idea, as you never know when you will hit that specific condition that the mid-priced balls can't perform as well on. Most of the balls that I have in my arsenal handle a variety of conditions, and I've gotten just as much use and high scores out of a mid-priced ball as I have a high performance ball. I don't tend to cover a ton of boards, so having an arsenal of hook monsters would be self-defeating for my game.

For most medium/heavy conditions on down to light oil the different ball companies offer a good range of mid-priced balls that deliver the goods as well as any high performance ball can.

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Re: High performance vs. mid price
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2004, 09:52:21 AM »
The Funny part about people saying that highend balls usually perform better on heavier conditions, sometimes more difficult as well. but infact i have found this to be the opposite. Typically i have found that Asymeterical balls they work well on house conditions, giving you even more area that may already be there. But on tighter conditions( sport patterns for example) a regular mid-price symeterical ball matches up better for control.


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Re: High performance vs. mid price
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2004, 01:06:10 PM »
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But on tighter conditions( sport patterns for example) a regular mid-price symeterical ball matches up better for control.  


Interesting Dude and that's what Phil Cardinale usually says about his symetrical cored balls.  Also, it seems very provenm from what Steve Jaros did last year using mainly the Vendetta line and a Crisis a few times to win PBA tourneys.  All  DT mid line or lower line equipment.  

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Re: High performance vs. mid price
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2004, 01:10:41 PM »
The high performace stuff is usually the bowling balls with the higer hook rating. And the ones considered high performace are usually particle.
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Re: High performance vs. mid price
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2004, 02:27:34 PM »
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 high end balls are for specific lane conditions and mid performance can be used on almost all conditions.



Exactly my opinion.

Also - the technology that is "high-end" today will be brought back in 2 years as a midprice line.
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Re: High performance vs. mid price
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2004, 02:37:03 PM »
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