I have seen both! More usually it is because of loss of energy, however last night I got one that blew my mind because it most certainly was not from loss of energy. I set the ball down in the hold area, that had the most oil. The ball had good pace on it (faster than I normally throw it) with a decent amount of revs. It hit like a bomb! I just knew I had a strike,,,,but had a blower 7 pin and a wrap ten pin that just kept rocking but never fell!
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