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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: FCbowler12 on March 18, 2006, 07:44:43 AM
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Ok , Today we had a state tournament for hs bowling in Louisville , Ky. there was over 15 teams there for both guys and girls . Now our girls finished second and our guys finished third ( Witch im on ) and when we return to school you wont here nothing about it. there was over 300 people in the building today it was a hs sports event and we will get no recongnition for it what so ever. is there any other high schools that are like this.
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At least you *have* high school bowling, so be happy.
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- Andy
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thats messed up, im on my varsity school team and thats never happened to me(us) before
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VIVA LA METAL MILITIA!
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member of the FOS, LANE 1 OWNS
Edited on 3/18/2006 4:48 PM
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Yah , we also finished 1st in our confrence this year and no recognition what so ever at our school
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yup my high school squad boys did very well in state girls did even better and we got no respect we got letters for it but no recognition on the anouncements, nothing said by the teachers its like were not even part of the school
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Current Average 158 high school team, and 163 Saturday Morning League (I'm a sophmore been bowling for 6months now)
Current Balls: Ebonite Tornado 14lb (red/orange/black) and the Storm Hot Rod Hybrid 15lb
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Yah , the funny thing is that both or guys and girls teams brung 1st place home to the school last year we are like the only good team our high school has.
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You have to put out your own news. We called the local tv station and got an interview. We call the local papers. An email campaign gets underway right after the state finals. You have to put out the news yourself. Chances are that no one understands or knows you exist. Do you really think that any college coaches are going to make the an effort to go to your centers and see you??? You may be the state champs but do you promote yourselves??? To tell you the truth when I was in high school I cared less about the football team or any athletics that I was not playing. Ask the tennis, swimming or golf teams about the way they are treated. You'll probably find it is about the same. Does your high school team have a website??? Do the people at school know where it is??? Do you send information off to colleges about your team and website? Getting recognition takes work. Check out the Irving High School bowling club website.
Smash49
Smash49
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Smash49
robert@bowlersslidesock.com
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Edited on 3/18/2006 6:30 PM
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quote:
At least you *have* high school bowling, so be happy.
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- Andy
I agree. We don't have anything close to resembling High School bowling here. We don't even have a youth Travel League...
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www.bowlingballexchange.com
Saturday Youth League
http://bowlingtracker.no-ip.org:2222/personalstats/ViewStats.asp?PS_LeagueID=6610
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Guys when I went to school we didn't even have bowling teams. I think its awesome you guys have them. Keep doing what your doing us bowlers might not be given the recongition we deserve but at least your repersenting something and someone. Keep your cool and hey keep your game tight get on TEAM USA with us and have a good time.
Jess
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Proud Member of the Revolution

Know your worth... Expect nothing less
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When I was in high school back in 94-98, There was no high school bowling teams. When I bowled in Youth leauges, there was no traveling leauges. 6 years later my High School Finally got some high school bowling teams. Unfortunately its ONLY girls bowling but thats a start. And 1 year after I was forced out of YABA because of age, the very next year.........a travel leauge was formed!!
For those of you who have H.S. Bowling and Travel Leauges, be happy you have em as many never had that in their past.
As for no recognition, you have to display yourself in order to get recognized. Tell local papers (they will print it because I report all the weeks high scores from the past Sat. and they put it in the paper on teusday usually), call the local news TV station, tell your High school reporter (if you have a high school paper).........get out there and tell the world, then you'll get peoples attention.
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Mike Zadler
NE Lake County IL
Sanctioned Highs:
775 Series/288 Game
Sanct. Ave. (2004/2005)194
Tweener by day, Stroker by night
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Ok I looked around and we have several of the top students in their class. They are going to Baylor, Stanford, University of North Texas, Wichita State, University of Dallas, and one possibly to West Texas A&M. Last year we graduated all our seniors with honors and all went to college. I see a bunch of smart kids that stay in school and go to college. They are academically sound and that is usually the first words out of a recruiting colleges mouth. "What are their SATs, Where did they rank in their class, What is their GPA and then give me their bowling history"! Try answering those questions with some of the athletes in other sports and compare.
Smash49
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Smash49
robert@bowlersslidesock.com
Put Your Best Slide Foot Forward!!! www.bowlersslidesock.com
www.slsmdesigns.com/irvinghighbowling - www.strikingcatbowling.com
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Yep. See profile.
By the way, nice bowling on sat FCbowler
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Its hard to play with an inferno and not get burned. Last time I threw my inferno, the opposing bowler definitely got burned.
COME TO THE DARK SIDE. WE HAVE COOKIES!
Arsenal
Scout Reactive(Blue/Gold)
V2 Sweet
Original Inferno
Intense Inferno
Smokin' Inferno
Scorchin Inferno
Maxim(spare)
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team finshed 2nd and we had one annoucement for under 4 seconds
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I Dont have a mark juss throw the ball in an area BUT I STILL STRIKE
Arsenal: Storm Diablo, Storm Hot Rod Super Sport Pearl, lStorm Paradigm,Morich Seek & Destroy
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Our team won state here in ohio and there was a nice long announcement the next monday at school about us... the bowling alley reckonized us when we got to bowl youth league again(calling us up on the approach infront of everyone).. the school board was there at state for us. ohio doesn't consider bowling as a school "sport" yet anyways... i think thats gonna change later this year.. but it felt nice to have the whole community backing us... i wish it was the same for other places
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my home alley...
http://www.shawneelanes.com/
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JDT
You must have read my BIO! At one time I did have a TEA exemption to teach adults CIS. I was a corporate instructor for a major electronics firm and taught many school districts staff members to use their computer software. Along with the school districts I have taught the Internal Revenue Service, Emery World Wide, The First State Bank of Texas and the City of Dallas Utilies Dept and other organizations. Being accredited myself has nothing to do with anything. Our internal school sponsor is accredited and he deals with the school district affairs and the students at school. I am a bowling coach and a volunteer. It is the combination of the two of us that make it work. You need to go to the Texas State High School Bowling Championships in Houston and take a look around. Why would a college bowling coach go to a high school??? The athletic director is clueless in many school districts. There are very few high coaches of any sport that are able to coach bowling properly. Ok here is a few things for you!
http://www.slsmdesigns.com/irvinghighbowling/DallasNews2.pdf
http://www.slsmdesigns.com/irvinghighbowling/DallasNews1.pdf
http://www.slsmdesigns.com/irvinghighbowling/Printed%20from%20dallasnews.pdf
My bio for those interested...
About The Coach
Robert C. Maxfield II, Director of Coaching and Development Striking Cat Bowling
Robert Maxfield currently has over 40 years of bowling experience. He turned his interest to coaching in the summer of 2003 obtaining his first certification the USA Bowling Bronze from Gold Level Coach Susie Minshew. That year Maxfield joined The Irving High School Bowling Club as Head Coach leading both boys and girls varsity teams to the state tournament. The Irving High School Boys team also won the Dallas West District Championship and Tournament. The Lady Tigers placed second in the district. During the spring of 2004 Coach Maxfield went to Fairview Heights Illinois to study under PBA Hall of Famer and Coaching Legend Dick Ritger. He acquired both the Ritger level 1 and 2 certifications. That same year in August, Coach Maxfield received his USA Bowling / USBC Coaching Silver level from Rod Ross, USA Bowling Gold Certified Coach, Master Instructor for USA Bowling, Head Coach of Junior Team USA and a member of the IBPSIA Board of Directors. Once again the Irving High School Bowling Club was State Tournament bound. Coach Maxfield led the undefeated in district play Lady Tigers past the Central Texas Regional and straight to the State Championship Tournament placing 33rd. The Irving Boys also had a fine finish to the season placing 30th with junior Hector Arellano winning the Texas State High School Bowling Boys Singles Championship and the Dallas Morning News All Area Boys Bowler of the year! Coach Maxfield continues to coach beyond the high school ranks. January of 2006 he received his Level I and Level II certifications In Rogers Arkansas from Instructor Bob Shumate. Robert Maxfield is currently working to become a Level I coaching instructor and continue teaching, he has focused on the bowling youth.
Coaching Statistics
USBC/USA Bowling Silver Certified Coach 2004
Instructor: Rod Ross
USBC/USA Bowling Bronze Certified Coach 2003
Instructor: Susie Minshew
Dick Ritger Certified Level 1 & 2 Instructor 2004
Instructor: Dick Ritger
ASEP Coaching Principles
Instructors: Rich Grogan & Jeanne Klescewski
Classic Products Fitting and Ball Drilling Seminar 2005
Instructor: Mike Riggins
USBC Level 1 & 2 Certified Coach 2006
Instructor: Bob Shumate
Irving High School Bowling Club Record
2005 33rd Place Texas State High School Bowling Girls Championship
2005 Fifth Place Texas Central Region Tournament
2005 Dallas West District Girls Champions (undefeated)
2004 Dallas West District Girls Runner Up
2005 Texas State High School Bowling Boys Singles Champion Hector Arellano
Dallas Morning News 2004-05 All Area Boys Bowler of the Year Hector Arellano
2005 30th Place Texas State High School Bowling Boys Championship
2005 Third Place Texas Central Region Tournament
2005 Dallas West District Boys Runner Up
2004 4th Place Finish Texas State High School Bowling Championships Hector Arellano
2004 Dallas West District Boys Champions
2004 Dallas West District Tournament Boys Champ
2005 USBC Youth Dallas City Tournament
SINGLE RANK by HANDICAP SCORES - DIVISION 1
15th Place Hector Arellano
SINGLE RANK by HANDICAP SCORES - DIVISION 2
1st Place Alex Hammer
20th Place Seth Franklin
SINGLE RANK by HANDICAP SCORES - DIVISION 3
5th Place Caleb (Keebs) Keele
DOUBLES RANK by HANDICAP SCORES - DIVISION 2
1st Place Alex Hammer / Seth Franklin
7th Place Hector Arellano / Caleb (Keebs) Keele
TEAM RANK by HANDICAP SCORES - DIVISION 2
3rd Place Irving High Bowlers + 1*
Team consist of 4 Irving High Bowlers and Red Oak 8th grader Courtney Stevenson
ALL EVENTS RANK by HANDICAP SCORES - DIVISION 1
8th Place Hector Arellano
ALL EVENTS RANK by HANDICAP SCORES - DIVISION 2
4th Place Seth Franklin
5th Place Alex Hammer
ALL EVENTS RANK by HANDICAP SCORES - DIVISION 3
12th Place Caleb (Keebs) Keele
Private Students 2005 USBC Youth Dallas City Tournament
ALL EVENTS RANK by SCRATCH SCORES - DIVISION 4 Girls
1st Place Courtney Stevenson Red Oak, Texas
HIGH SERIES by SCRATCH SCORES - DIVISION 4 Girls
1st Place Courtney Stevenson Red Oak, Texas
SINGLE RANK by HANDICAP SCORES - DIVISION 4 Girls
6th Place Courtney Stevenson Red Oak, Texas
DOUBLES RANK by HANDICAP SCORES - DIVISION 4 Girls
4th Place Courtney Stevenson Red Oak, Texas
ALL EVENTS RANK by HANDICAP SCORES - DIVISION 4 Girls
3rd Place Courtney Stevenson Red Oak, Texas
Personal Record
Traveling Classic Bowling Association National Team Champion 1988
Dallas City B Division Doubles Champion 1993
Texas State C Division Doubles 2nd Place 1983
The reason that high school bowling does not get the recognition it deserves in many cases lies with the schools themselves and the athletic directors. It is true that it is on the bottom of the food chain but if no one will fight for it, it will die there. As you can see some people would rather see it die than support it and that is a shame. The only way to get people to know who you are is to take the ball to their court. BTW I send letters to colleges and recruit them for my athletes!
Smash49
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Smash49
robert@bowlersslidesock.com
Put Your Best Slide Foot Forward!!! www.bowlersslidesock.com
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I would like to point out that treatment like this isn't universal.
In the Tennessee state championships, which were held in Smyrna, the Daily News Journal out of Murfreesboro dedicated two writers and a photographer daily to the event, and when Smyrna High School won the tournament, the picture and story ran on the front page of the paper -- not just the sports section. But it ran there, too.
In the weeks leading up to it, Smyrna won its substate round in Smyrna (made the front page of sports), and won the District a month before in Columbia (made sports front then, too).
A large part of why this happened is that the DNJ makes local high school sports coverage a priority. And any newspaper smaller than the largest metro dailies that want to survive another 20 years in this business WILL start doing it if they haven't already.
A smaller part of why it happened is one member of the DNJ editorial staff (and that would be me)is a league bowler, familiar with the terminology and offered advice to the sports staff on how to cover it. The more comfortable the staff of a paper is, the more likely they are to get out there and write.
But the DNJ also had competition from our larger cousin in Nashville, The Tennessean, who also had a writer and photographer dedicated to coverage.
So if you're looking for an "insider" tip on how to get this stuff in your local paper, here's how you do it:
1) Get a face-to-face meeting with the paper's sports editor, and the editor, too, if you can swing it.
2) Be nice. VERY nice. Going in there with a "Why don't you cover this?" attitude isn't going to cut it.
3) Point out the local angles of coverage.
4) Get the staff of the bowling center to work with the paper -- access to prime viewing spots, permission for the photographer to get downlane in practice to get action shots, WHATEVER.
5) Volunteer to provide someone patient to work with the writer on bowling terminology, so he doesn't feel like Donny Dumb*** when he's writing the article. If a writer thinks he's going to embarrass himself, he'll communicate that to his editor and they'll bury the story far inside the section.
6) And by all means, get the mamas and daddies to hold off on calling the paper the day after a story runs to complain that their specific kid wasn't featured.
Jess
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i hear ya we won state the first year it was recognized and was the first state title in school history in any sport and we got alittle annoucement our bball team took 4th in the state and got a parade when they got back make sense? not to me
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JDT
These kids looking for recognition wonder what the problem is and all they have to do is look at you. GIVE these kids some respect for what they do. If you've got kids that want to participate in any organized sport support them. If it keeps them off the streets, out of trouble and off drugs, help them. Instead they get the opposite message from people like this.
"I will match my teaching/coaching background against
yours any day. MS + 32 in Physical Education,30
years of teaching in a high school of 3,000 + students,
18 years of coaching experience, 12 years as an athletic
director. In that time I never heard of one college
bowling coach ask about a student. THERE IS NO INTEREST.
If there were, better athletes would push your students
into the background. You either have a license to teach
in your state or you don't."
No interest???
Prairie View A & M University-W NCAA I
Alicia Pete
P.O. Box 97, Room 31, Franklin Health Center Bldg.
Prairie View , TX 77446
alicia_pete@pvamu.edu
Sam Houston State University-M
Adam Marsh
2750 Lake Road Apt 6
Huntsville , TX 77340
littlecrunch2000@yahoo.com
Texas A & M University-M
Eric Manthei
Bowling Club
Sikirat Kazeem, 4250 TAMU
College Station , TX 77843
eric_manthei@yahoo.com
Texas State University-MW
Matt Phillips
3608 William Scarbrough
Schertz , TX 78154
matthewphillips34@hotmail.com
Texas Tech University-M
Sam Cuevas
3103 NCR 1640
Lubbock , TX 79416
samuel.cuevas@ttu.edu
University of Houston-MW
Bill Schwehr
274 University Center, Room 46B
Houston , TX 77204-3029
wwschwehr@central.uh.edu
University of North Texas - MW
Jennifer Smith
2912 Brighton Circle
Denton , TX 76210
peanutbuttr7@aol.com
University of Texas-Austin-M
Catie Boroff
600 W. 26th Street Apt. A302
Austin , TX 78705
csboroff@mail.utexas.edu
West Texas A & M University-MW
Max Seymour
WTAMU Box 60265
Canyon , TX 79016
mseymour@mail.wtamu.edu
Emporia State University-MW
Jo Kord
Campus Box 4062
Emporia , KS 66801
kordjola@emporia.edu
Newman University - M & W
Billy Murphy
3100 McCormick Avenue
Wichita , KS 67213
murphyb@newmanu.edu
University of Kansas-MW
Jim Waite
1301 Jayhawk Blvd.
Lawrence , KS 66044
jwaite@ku.edu
785-864-3545
Wichita State University-MW
Gordon Vadakin
Box 56, 1845 Fairmount
Wichita , KS 67260-0056
gordon.vadakin@wichita.edu
Illinois State University-MW
Pat O'Connell
"Bowling & Billiards, Campus Box 2640"
Normal , IL 61790-2640
pkoconn@ilstu.edu
McKendree College-MW-NAIA
Gary White
701 College Road
Lebanon , IL 62254
gwhite@mckendree.edu
Northern Illinois University-MW
Gary Barnstable
1075 Ridge Drive #8
Dekalb , IL 60115
hshousetimes2@yahoo.com
Robert Morris College-W-NAIA
Dale Lehman
2315 Lydia Avenue
Zion , IL 60099
golferman36@hotmail.com
Rock Valley College (M)
Chuck Falconer
7377 Mill Road
Rockford , IL 61108
chuck.falconer@hs.utc.com
Rock Valley College (W)
Mike Hoglund
5331 Circle Ct.
Rockford , IL 61108
mehogl@cesco.com
Rock Valley College-MW
Chuck Falconer
7377 Mill Road
Rockford , IL 61108
chuck.falconer@hs.utc.com
Southern Illinois University-Edwardsville (W)
Shelly Morrison
205 Hodgens Mill
O'Fallon , IL 62269
morrisonsl@charter.net
Southern Illinois University-Edwardsville-M
Bryan Winterbottom
24 Mt. Vernon
Fairview Heights , IL 62208
bwinter@siue.edu
Southern Illinois-Carbondale - M
Mike Rivers
700 S. Lewis Lane Apt. 1403
Carbondale , IL 62901
mrvenue@siu.edu
University of Illinois-Urbana-MW
Brian Stephens
207 E. John Street Apt. 201
Champaign , IL 61820
bstephns@uiuc.edu
Western Illinois University-MW
Randy Widger
23117 North Cherokee Road
Cuba , IL 61427
rg-widger@wiu.edu
Define better athlete? Football players are not born knowing everything otherwise why would they need you? What makes them an athlete? What makes a figure skater or gymnast? or a high school bowler? The best bowlers are taught to be the best bowlers just as the best football players are taught to be the best football players. They may not be able to bench 300 or stand out in the outfield and wait for something to come their way 3 or 4 times a game. You give me someone that wants to be a good bowler and I'll help them get to be the best their abilities allow, not tell them there is no interest. These kids want to be part of something. The something they want to be part of is good. I would support kids if they wanted to play power pickup sticks if it meant keeping them out of trouble.
I'm not in 10th grade anymore and not intimidated by school teachers. Some of the best advice I heard while in school was to push your teachers and demand the best. They are there to teach you! It's only your future they are dealing with. Sit in the front row. Ask questions. Learn, think and demand to be taught. I seem to remember having a math teacher that was a baseball coach or vise versa. His idea of algebra was learning to figure out his tax return. Just because someone has a license to teach does not mean they are a very good teacher. It just means they have a license.
Smash49
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Smash49
robert@bowlersslidesock.com
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LOL They asked why high school bowling gets no respect. There you go. You have to deal with people like JDT. My students well being and education are my top priorities. As for the endorsement??? I did not want to be a high school teacher. So no I did not get the endorsement. I still do not want to be a high school teacher and so no I will not get the endorsement. I volunteer my time because I want to and can afford to do it. Football coaches are probably the least respected teachers in any school. Many are thought of as teacher wannabes that couldn't do anything else with their lives. The only thing they could do is pass the teachers examine. Since I have never wanted to take the examine I can not tell you. See it is all in perspective. Some people think bowling is not a real sport and some people think football coaches are not real teachers no matter what paperwork they have done.
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Smash49
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Smash49
robert@bowlersslidesock.com
Put Your Best Slide Foot Forward!!! www.bowlersslidesock.com
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Agreed there is a lack of people wanting to coach high school bowling in the schools. At least here is the fact that no one understands it. I know at least one football/soccer coach that took it on and will be the first to admit he knows nothing of the sport. Many teachers that are the volunteer sponsors only do it for the kids. They know nothing of the sport. You might as well handed them the cricket team. Bowling people are necessary to get the schools to open their eyes and realize this is a good thing for the kids. Some school districts are affraid of bowling, it may be the old reputation the sport has of being cigarette smoke dungeons and dirty. I would like nothing more than to see high school bowling being taught by high school coaches. At first it will be rough but that is what the volunteers, boosters, other involved parties will be there for. How much flack does the swim team or the diving team get??? Football has the advantage of Football coaches being ex football players. Bowling's disadvantage is Football coaches that are ex football players trying to be bowling coaches. I would like nothing more than to be able to help a school district and coaches of whatever sport become adjusted to bowling. The whole point of this thread is that kids want to do an activity and are looked down upon or not recognized for doing it. The simple thing to do is recognize them for a job well done and let bowling grow within the schools. Embrace bowling as a sport that almost anyone can play and may obtain higher skill levels as they learn. What harm would it do??? It's not my job. I own 2 successful companies and represent a third. I like volunteering my time to help kids. I do not need to be paid for what I do for the high school. Who else will help these kids??? No interest just doesn't cut it. There is interest but maybe schools for whatever reason have a problem but the kids they teach want to do it.
Smash49
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Smash49
robert@bowlersslidesock.com
Put Your Best Slide Foot Forward!!! www.bowlersslidesock.com
www.slsmdesigns.com/irvinghighbowling - www.strikingcatbowling.com