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FCbowler12

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High School Bowing Teams
« on: March 18, 2006, 07:44:43 AM »
Ok , Today we had a state tournament for hs bowling in Louisville , Ky. there was over 15 teams there for both guys and girls . Now our girls finished second and our guys finished third ( Witch im on ) and when we return to school you wont here nothing about it. there was over 300 people in the building today it was a hs sports event and we will get no recongnition for it what so ever. is there any other high schools that are like this.
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Re: High School Bowing Teams
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2006, 12:07:57 AM »
I would like to point out that treatment like this isn't universal.

In the Tennessee state championships, which were held in Smyrna, the Daily News Journal out of Murfreesboro dedicated two writers and a photographer daily to the event, and when Smyrna High School won the tournament, the picture and story ran on the front page of the paper -- not just the sports section. But it ran there, too.

In the weeks leading up to it, Smyrna won its substate round in Smyrna (made the front page of sports), and won the District a month before in Columbia (made sports front then, too).

A large part of why this happened is that the DNJ makes local high school sports coverage a priority. And any newspaper smaller than the largest metro dailies that want to survive another 20 years in this business WILL start doing it if they haven't already.

A smaller part of why it happened is one member of the DNJ editorial staff (and that would be me)is a league bowler, familiar with the terminology and offered advice to the sports staff on how to cover it. The more comfortable the staff of a paper is, the more likely they are to get out there and write.

But the DNJ also had competition from our larger cousin in Nashville, The Tennessean, who also had a writer and photographer dedicated to coverage.

So if you're looking for an "insider" tip on how to get this stuff in your local paper, here's how you do it:

1) Get a face-to-face meeting with the paper's sports editor, and the editor, too, if you can swing it.

2) Be nice. VERY nice. Going in there with a "Why don't you cover this?" attitude isn't going to cut it.

3) Point out the local angles of coverage.

4) Get the staff of the bowling center to work with the paper -- access to prime viewing spots, permission for the photographer to get downlane in practice to get action shots, WHATEVER.

5) Volunteer to provide someone patient to work with the writer on bowling terminology, so he doesn't feel like Donny Dumb*** when he's writing the article. If a writer thinks he's going to embarrass himself, he'll communicate that to his editor and they'll bury the story far inside the section.

6) And by all means, get the mamas and daddies to hold off on calling the paper the day after a story runs to complain that their specific kid wasn't featured.

Jess

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Re: High School Bowing Teams
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2006, 03:39:13 AM »
i hear ya we won state the first year it was recognized and was the first state title in school history in any sport and we got alittle annoucement our bball team took 4th in the state and got a parade when they got back make sense? not to me

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Re: High School Bowing Teams
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2006, 05:18:43 AM »
JDT

These kids looking for recognition wonder what the problem is and all they have to do is look at you.  GIVE these kids some respect for what they do.  If you've got kids that want to participate in any organized sport support them.  If it keeps them off the streets, out of trouble and off drugs, help them.  Instead they get the opposite message from people like this.

 "I will match my teaching/coaching background against
yours any day. MS + 32 in Physical Education,30
years of teaching in a high school of 3,000 + students,
18 years of coaching experience, 12 years as an athletic
director. In that time I never heard of one college
bowling coach ask about a student. THERE IS NO INTEREST.
If there were, better athletes would push your students
into the background. You either have a license to teach
in your state or you don't."

No interest???

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Define better athlete?  Football players are not born knowing everything otherwise why would they need you?  What makes them an athlete?  What makes a figure skater or gymnast?  or a high school bowler?  The best bowlers are taught to be the best bowlers just as the best football players are taught to be the best football players.  They may not be able to bench 300 or stand out in the outfield and wait for something to come their way 3 or 4 times a game. You give me someone that wants to be a good bowler and I'll help them get to be the best their abilities allow, not tell them there is no interest.  These kids want to be part of something.  The something they want to be part of is good.  I would support kids if they wanted to play power pickup sticks if it meant keeping them out of trouble.


I'm not in 10th grade anymore and not intimidated by school teachers.  Some of the best advice I heard while in school was to push your teachers and demand the best.  They are there to teach you!  It's only your future they are dealing with.  Sit in the front row. Ask questions.  Learn, think and demand to be taught. I seem to remember having a math teacher that was a baseball coach or vise versa.  His idea of algebra was learning to figure out his tax return.  Just because someone has a license to teach does not mean they are a very good teacher.  It just means they have a license.

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Re: High School Bowing Teams
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2006, 09:12:46 PM »
LOL  They asked why high school bowling gets no respect.  There you go.  You have to deal with people like JDT.  My students well being and education are my top priorities.  As for the endorsement???  I did not want to be a high school teacher.  So no I did not get the endorsement.  I still do not want to be a high school teacher and so no I will not get the endorsement.  I volunteer my time because I want to and can afford to do it.  Football coaches are probably the least respected teachers in any school.  Many are thought of as teacher wannabes that couldn't do anything else with their lives.  The only thing they could do is pass the teachers examine.  Since I have never wanted to take the examine I can not tell you.  See it is all in perspective.  Some people think bowling is not a real sport and some people think football coaches are not real teachers no matter what paperwork they have done.

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Re: High School Bowing Teams
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2006, 08:43:16 AM »
Agreed there is a lack of people wanting to coach high school bowling in the schools.  At least here is the fact that no one understands it.  I know at least one football/soccer coach that took it on and will be the first to admit he knows nothing of the sport.  Many teachers that are the volunteer sponsors only do it for the kids.  They know nothing of the sport.  You might as well handed them the cricket team.  Bowling people are necessary to get the schools to open their eyes and realize this is a good thing for the kids.   Some school districts are affraid of bowling, it may be the old reputation the sport has of being cigarette smoke dungeons and dirty.  I would like nothing more than to see high school bowling being taught by high school coaches.  At first it will be rough but that is what the volunteers, boosters, other involved parties will be there for.  How much flack does the swim team or the diving team get???  Football has the advantage of Football coaches being ex football players.  Bowling's disadvantage is Football coaches that are ex football players trying to be bowling coaches. I would like nothing more than to be able to help a school district and coaches of whatever sport become adjusted to bowling. The whole point of this thread is that kids want to do an activity and are looked down upon or not recognized for doing it.  The simple thing to do is recognize them for a job well done and let bowling grow within the schools.  Embrace bowling as a sport that almost anyone can play and may obtain higher skill levels as they learn.  What harm would it do???  It's not my job.  I own 2 successful companies and represent a third.  I like volunteering my time to help kids.  I do not need to be paid for what I do for the high school.  Who else will help these kids???   No interest just doesn't cut it.  There is interest but maybe schools for whatever reason have a problem but the kids they teach want to do it.

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