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Rev-less

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Brunswick's Take on 'Ball Death'
« on: September 21, 2003, 07:10:51 PM »
http://boards.brunswickbowling.com/index.pl/alearning_lab?func=showMessage&mid=101019&wid=6

I'm not sure if this is the same stuff in the BTM issue, but in any case its a very interesting read...

Now suppose the Brunswick guys are right about ball death...how would it explain the good results I got from using Ebonite's hook again on Brunswick equipment? Maybe hook again is just a substance that removes oil...and not 'plasticizer'.

Nor does the article explain how I had 'oil' bleeding out of a brand new Speed Zone when I placed it in a 65Deg.C. oven several years back though.
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charlest

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Re: Brunswick's Take on 'Ball Death'
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2003, 11:18:32 AM »
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I guess that explains why I lightly bled my eliminator and it never hooked again.  Many other balls have been bled and didn't come back......


Now I'm confused. If you only "lightly bled" it, what explains why it never came back?
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Michael DeSantis

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Re: Brunswick's Take on 'Ball Death'
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2003, 11:25:04 AM »
Maybe I am just a pig-headed simpleton, but I believe Brunswick has it about right.  I think regular ball surface cleaning, oil removal and occasional resurfacing are the keys to maintaining performance on most modern bowling balls.  How you do these three things may vary as may the results, but many people have done these steps and have shown them to be effective in many instances.
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charlest

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Re: Brunswick's Take on 'Ball Death'
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2003, 11:26:42 AM »
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Now suppose the Brunswick guys are right about ball death...how would it explain the good results I got from using Ebonite's hook again on Brunswick equipment? Maybe hook again is just a substance that removes oil...and not 'plasticizer'.

Nor does the article explain how I had 'oil' bleeding out of a brand new Speed Zone when I placed it in a 65Deg.C. oven several years back though.


Rev-less,

Now don't forget we have at least 2 different chemical companies making resins for bowling balls, maybe more. Bayer makes the resin for Brunwick and BASF makes th eresin for Columbia; Ebonite and Storm, the other 2 major bowling ball companies, have never said who makes theirs.

The actual formula of the resins can make them react differently and be affected by oil and their plasticizers differently. SO what affects Brunswick's balls make affect Ebonite's or Columbia's in a different manner. Unless we have the actual chmists sharing their formulas and their effeects, only testing like Brunswicks will tell us what happens.

From my reading the Brunswick summary of what was tested, how they were tested and how the balls were modified to attempt to adjust them has more actual meaning to me personally than many of vagaries indicated in EBonite's advertising inserts. Maybe they seem more suspicious because they are trying to sell us something. I am unsure.

I feel less suspicious of Brunswick because of 2 factors:
- the recognized longevity of their PowerKoil 18 coverstock and
- the fact that they are not trying to sell us something.


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Re: Brunswick's Take on 'Ball Death'
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2003, 09:07:51 PM »
Randy...I myself got poor results doing the same thing. There were several times in the past when I did 'bake' my bowling balls after they had 100+ games on them. Took me on average 8 15-minute cycles to get all the 'oil' out. But when I tried them afterwards they showed little to no improvement at all. Those that did show a little extra hook often reverted back after a game or 2.

I had more success with the hot-water soaking method before I found Hook-Again.
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Bjaardker

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Re: Brunswick's Take on 'Ball Death'
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2003, 11:36:23 PM »
Then again, after a trip to the rejuvenator for my Adrenaline, nearly all of it's hook is back.

Bottom line, if this is really the case, I would be much more willing to buy Big B.

The real question I have is, since Lane #1 has started using their own coverstock formulations, will they have the same longevity as the Brunswick covers?
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