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jepr0x

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asymmetric vs. symmetric
« on: August 21, 2008, 08:09:47 AM »
Is it possible for a bowler to match up better with symmetric bowling balls than assymetric ones? or vice versa?

 

Rileybowler

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Re: asymmetric vs. symmetric
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2008, 04:16:48 PM »
I had thought that I matched up better with symmetric than assymetric but that was before I purchased a used Immortal Pearl and all I can say is wow what a ball. I left the same drill on it moved the thumb for my span and hit it with 2000 abralon and bigo . I think it probably has more to do with the drilling pattern on the ball than which type of ball it is
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Re: asymmetric vs. symmetric
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2008, 04:30:09 PM »
Asymmetrical cores will be less forgiving to those who are inconsistent with their release. In other words they tend to expose bad releases. When the release is "right" they make you look good, and when the release is bad the opposite is true.
In my opinion it's nice to have some of each, but for the less accomplished they will be happier with symmetric core balls.






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gHatMan

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Re: asymmetric vs. symmetric
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2008, 06:24:27 PM »
What is the actual difference btween asymmetrical and symmetrical balls?
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cheech

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Re: asymmetric vs. symmetric
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2008, 06:32:39 PM »
symmetry?
symmetric  bowling balls tend to be smoother and more predictable and asymmetric bowling balls are not as smooth and predictable
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shelley

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Re: asymmetric vs. symmetric
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2008, 06:39:39 PM »
All balls have a preferred spin axis through the pin.  That is, the ball will have a tendency to reorient itself as it goes down the lane so that it is spinning about the pin.  This reorientation is what we call track flare.  When the ball is spinning around the pin, it is stable.

On a symmetric-cored ball, it can also spin stably 90* from the pin.  If you put the pin at the north pole, 90* is any point on the equator.  This is not as strongly preferred as spinning around the pin, but it is still stable.  It's also not unique any spot 90* from the pin will be a stable orientation for the core.

An asymmetric-cored ball has a specific point that's 90* from the pin about which is will spin stably.  Because it's a specific point (the MB mark, the secondary pin, or however the manufacturer chooses to mark it), it has a lot more influence on ball motion.

From a reaction standpoint, there is a wider range of ball reactions that you can get out of an asymmetric ball versus a symmetric ball.  There's some room for tweaking the reaction with a symmetric ball, but you're really just limited to where you put the weight hole.  Different placements of the MB will produce more different ball reactions than different placements of the CG on a symmetric ball.  And you can still tweak the reaction with a weight hole.

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Re: asymmetric vs. symmetric
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2008, 03:47:50 AM »
Someone posted a wise statement concerning strong MB balls (IMHO, the differentiation between symmetric and asymmtric cores does not focus on the important fact: the mass bias and PSA migration/stability): only about 15% of the players out there might actually ber exact enough to exploit the drilling options a strong MB ball offers. Being one of the mediocre rest, I second this after some experience with MoRich balls. Great pieces, you definitively get an extra punch out of them, but once set up, they are pretty specific to conditions and release mistakes, and their reaction is hard to "override" if the lane calls for it. Great equipment, but I hardly used tghem in tournament, because a simpler core offers me more versatility and adjustment options.
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