win a ball from Bowling.com

Author Topic: When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......  (Read 4024 times)

BrunsMike

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2785
When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......
« on: November 07, 2013, 09:44:37 PM »
What do you get when that happens? Absolutely no backends!!

Last night our lane man oiled lanes 9-24 for 2 different leagues. There was enough cleaner to clean lanes 9-16 were cleaned, lane 16 was a little iffy but 17 on down were not cleaned resulting in oil from foul line through the pins.

Everyones 1st shot were in for a big surprise when their hook ball went straight and only took out the 6-9-10 or there about. Before league started I talked to the proprietor about the conditons, he threw a few shots across the pairs then went behind the machines to look at the oil pattern. Came back and explained what happened and offered to re oil. He took a vote and surprisingly the vote to bowl on the current conditions won.

There were a lot of people grumbling about the conditions and a hand full that were absolutely loving the challenge myself included. Normally play 25-8 in this house. I ended up playing straight up 5 no belly and soft speed. Didn't start moving left until 3rd game.

Top 5 scores for the night were pretty tight really besides 1st and 2nd. 613, 589 (me), 581, 577, and 570.

Good times last night IMO.
Mike Zadler

 

billdozer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4613
  • Goin' Global!
Re: When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2013, 11:07:50 PM »
We have a 24 team mens league, this year a sensor went out in the machine...put out a doozey of a shot.  High in the house was 567!
In the bag [Infinite Physix, Volatility Torque, Night Road, Phaze III, Burner Solid, Hustle AU]
*Now Testing* IQ Ruby, Renevant, another IQ Tour solid
Coming soon...???

Armourboy

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 367
Re: When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2013, 01:13:01 AM »
I love running into stuff like that even though most people hate it. Its amazing what happens when people can't just walk up and throw their normal THS shot ( and just how non versatile some of those " great " bowlers are)

spmcgivern

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2079
Re: When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2013, 07:38:50 AM »
Like others, I don't mind a challenge.  What I don't like is expecting one thing and getting another.  If that were to happen at my center, I would vote to re-oil.  Not because I don't like bowling on difficult patterns.  But because I (and others I am sure) would not be prepared for the change.  If the center told us what we would get as a shot, fine, but not when I show up with my 2 balls intended for the original shot.

And another thing.  What benefit do you get from bowling on a shot where there is oil all the way through the pin deck?  Even a pro bowler will never see that type of shot.  If a regional is putting out a shot and the machine breaks and oils to the pin deck, they will not bowl on that shot.  The machine will be fixed and the lanes will be re-oiled. 

ccrider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2230
Re: When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2013, 08:12:44 AM »
Similar thing happened to us Wednesday. High series was 640. There was one more 600 and more 300 and 400 series than 500s. I shot 563-167,192,204.

The 125 a average bowler on our team started out with his highest game ever, 247, and ended up with the 4th highest series in the house, 587.

The guy with the second highest average in the league, 215, is also on my team. He wined all night and shot 430.

This is a tough old wood house that has given up only one 300 and 0 800 this year. Still, there was almost a protest when bowlers found that there was no hook, no backend and the only way to get to the pocket was to bowl straight at it.

BallReviews-Removed0385

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 0
Re: When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2013, 09:36:42 AM »
I've experienced that one time before and don't care to see that again.  I was testing a pattern for an upcoming tournament and was thinking about all the "whining" if this was the shot. The best oil ball on the market still needs to find SOME friction.

The mechanic caught it, corrected it, and I instantly felt relief.  It boils down to carelessness on the part of the mechanic, though.  Our guys top off the tank halfway through running our lanes so it doesn't happen.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 09:38:29 AM by notclay »

Stan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 667
Re: When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2013, 10:03:22 AM »
Stuff happens, you live with it and move on.  My only problem would be, did the entire league bowl with the same shot.  If not, then I have a real problem, plus I normally get into $50 or more of brackets.  Not fair having someone bowl on the normal shot and others bowling on this stuff.

If the entire league had the same shot, then no big deal.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 10:52:23 AM by Stan »

storm making it rain

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 838
Re: When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2013, 10:06:23 AM »
Lane Machine 101 - before running machine make sure fluid levels are topped off.

bradl

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1660
Re: When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2013, 01:57:29 PM »
Stuff happens, you live with it and move on.  My only problem would be, did the entire league bowl with the same shot.  If not, then I have a real problem, plus I normally get into $50 or more of brackets.  Not fair having someone bowl on the normal shot and others bowling on this stuff.

If the entire league had the same shot, then no big deal.

I had this happen to me, the last night of qualifying for AMF's $600,000 POA tournament, where the top 6 advanced. I was #7, and trailing by 17 pins. The mechanic started at one end of the house, stopped at my pair for the night because afternoon leagues were still on it, went to the other end of the house, and started there. By that time, the pair was open, but while he ran out of cleaner and thinking that he did that pair, he stopped.

The pair was totally fried and complaints were made (League secretary was on that same pair). The mechanic owned up to it, and all they would do is refund the lineage. I was screwed on the tournament because they wouldn't accept any other scores due to house/mechanic fault. I ended up being high man on the pair at 566. There was a 240 average bowler on that pair as well, and I was roughly 30 above him.

It was an understatement to say that I was livid.

BL.

BrunsMike

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2785
Re: When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2013, 09:40:57 PM »
Like others, I don't mind a challenge.  What I don't like is expecting one thing and getting another.  If that were to happen at my center, I would vote to re-oil.  Not because I don't like bowling on difficult patterns.  But because I (and others I am sure) would not be prepared for the change.  If the center told us what we would get as a shot, fine, but not when I show up with my 2 balls intended for the original shot.

And another thing.  What benefit do you get from bowling on a shot where there is oil all the way through the pin deck?  Even a pro bowler will never see that type of shot.  If a regional is putting out a shot and the machine breaks and oils to the pin deck, they will not bowl on that shot.  The machine will be fixed and the lanes will be re-oiled. 

The shot was still playable AND the proprietor did offer to re-oil the lanes before leagues got started. He took a vote to bowl as is and another one to re-oil. The vote was 60/40 in favor to bowl on the current conditions. All 4 pairs were exactly the same.

What benefit did I get out of this kind of pattern? Well, a few things. #1 instead of having 10 boards of room to play with I had 5 boards MAX. #2 I got to refamiliarize myself to one of my favorite lines on the lanes which is playing up 5 board or even a touch farther out then that. #3 Getting to show everyone that I'm more versitile then they think. Our high average bowler in the league threw 2 shots, packed up, and went to the bar to play on the gambling machines.

I always go bowling with an open mind and always expect the unexpected. Last Wednesday didn't bother me one bit. I enjoyed the challenge and would bowl on it again at any time. In fact, I viewed last Wednesday like practice for the Senior/Regular doubles tournament that bowls on one of Kegal patterns, last year it was on the beaten path and the year before that was on the easy street.

Anyway, I'm happy with how I handled the night of bowling shooting 589 on a fairly tough shot with a 202 average.
Mike Zadler

iowalefty

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 340
Re: When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2013, 03:36:18 PM »
Had something like this happen a few years ago. Oil down to the pin deck. Cell solid hooked less than my plastic ball; left a solid 5 pin with it. After missing a 3 pin with the Cell, where the last 45 ft it went dead straight, decided to make a ball change.. to my Reaction Roll, scuffed at 600grit. Played up 5, slow speed, Reaction Roll wouldn't hook much after the first 25 ft, but it carried great. Wound up 279/700 on the night. A few other decent scores were shot, certainly above average.
Stop being the problem, and start being part of the solution

Spider Man

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11829
Re: When the lane machine runs out of cleaner......
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2013, 03:48:33 PM »
This reminds me of the explaination "mechanic figured out how to use the machine", which I've heard a few times over the years. But I agree it's good to mix it up on the THS - intentional or not.