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BigBaller

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Nationals in a week and a half, HELP!
« on: March 01, 2013, 07:48:28 PM »
I am in the worst slump of my bowling life.

Last year i had the best year, i had 11 in a row, a 300 and an 800 all in different weeks. Finished with my second highest yearly average and felt good about the whole year, even the 395 i shot in singles at nationals. But i followed the worst people i could have followed.

On to this year. I am bowling 2 nights a week. And i just can't get comfortable. I am trying to relax but i am dropping my shoulder and not staying behind the ball. I feel like i am getting the ball to the top of the swing and then muscling the ball back down into the swing, my elbow bends and i either hang up in the ball with no rotation or i send the ball right early and the ball reacts way early.

Seems like i have a really good first game, then it all goes down hill. Wednesday night this week i shoot 257 i had 3 9 counts then i got 208, 201 but only reason i shot that is carry. I rolled the ball like crap and if i was at nationals i would have shot 100.
Then last night i shoot 185, 130, 159. Just couldn't roll the ball. I am a 350-375 rpm 17 MPH power tweener. My PAP has been traditionally 5 over 1/2 down but lately it has lowered because i have been not been staying behind the ball.

Sorry this is so long but i need to figure something out. I know not much help can be given with out seeing me bowl but maybe someone can suggest something that will stick.

 

kidlost2000

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Re: Nationals in a week and a half, HELP!
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2013, 08:04:01 PM »
Well you know the things your doing wrong. Id go to practice and video yourself to see if there are things you are doing wrong that you dont feel but may see on camera. When you go to practice start on the basics from the beginning. Work on your timing through your approach and on staying relaxed. Let your body do what it has been trained to do and not over think it.

It is best to video yourself when throwing the ball great, good, and when in a slump. This makes it easier to see things you were doing at each point and how to get back where you want to be.

Focus on your timing and a consistant release. Once you feel that coming together then focus on accuracy. Spares is the biggest factor for nationals. If you are solid on spare shooting the scores will follow. Most of all dont over think anything. Yes it is nationals but it still comes down to playing your game .
« Last Edit: March 01, 2013, 08:09:24 PM by kidlost2000 »
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J_Mac

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Re: Nationals in a week and a half, HELP!
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 08:06:49 PM »
I'd be more concerned if you didn't drop your shoulder...  Can you think of one pro on tour that finishes with their shoulders parallel to the approach?

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Re: Nationals in a week and a half, HELP!
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 08:11:23 PM »
Try and put up a video so we can see. I think the best help I ever get is when I read mark bakers book. It's simple and can help someone from 160 to 230. You can get the kindle version for like ten dollars I think
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northface28

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Re: Nationals in a week and a half, HELP!
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 09:48:53 PM »
I'd be more concerned if you didn't drop your shoulder...  Can you think of one pro on tour that finishes with their shoulders parallel to the approach?

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Re: Nationals in a week and a half, HELP!
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2013, 11:01:50 PM »
Don't feel too bad...I'm in the same boat as you.  It can be tough to work through, but like others have said, video yourself and try to see what /where things are going wrong.

We go the 17th...hope to have some things together by then.   
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BigBaller

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Re: Nationals in a week and a half, HELP!
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2013, 11:08:11 PM »
We bowl the 13th and 14th. But get in the night of the 12th. Might go hit up some side events.

The problem is i will have a really good game where i think i have things finally worked out and then 6 frames later it's gone. It sucks and i get so pissed at myself.
I have shot good at nationals, 1800 all events is my goal every year and i have done it twice. But right now i hope i can shoot 1500. My confidence is shot, i gotta figure something out.

I am going to take a:
Rico drilled Blue warlock at 600 (factory)
Nexxus pin to right of ring @ 4000
Mutant Cell pin over and between fingers @ 2000
Ascent Pearl pin under fingers @ Factory

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Re: Nationals in a week and a half, HELP!
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2013, 08:15:11 AM »
I would make a trip out for a practice session and focus on 2 items (notice: neither of them are score).  1) Timing.  There is nothing that will throw off everything you do more than timing.  Personally, I tend to get the ball moving a bit early, resulting in early timing.  This crops up a whole range of issues (many of which you mentioned above).  When making a change, I typically try to exagerate the change, so it has a better change of sticking (seems to help with me).  On a 5 step approach, don't start the ball moving until step 2 1/2.  On a 4 step approach, step 1 1/2.  The idea, generate "later" timing.  2) Release behind the ball. To improve staying behind th eball, I like to envision my hand on the inside of the ball (palm facing outwards).  I will even throw a number of shots this way (essentially generating a back-up ball rotation) to groove in the feeling.  BTW, this is a wonderful way to flatten out a shot for corner pins!  When I go back to throwing regular shots, I try to keep the "hand inside" feel until it passes my thigh (whether that actually happens or not is another issue).. Depending on the roll I'm trying to generate, I will also work on trying to move from the inside (9 oclock on the dial) to the back of the ball (5 oclock) during the release.  I never end up actually rolling the ball end over end, but helps against chicken winging and coming around early.

These may or may not work for you (some suggestions to think about at least), but seem to be leading causes when I start throwing the ball "bad".  Its amazing how much more confidence you have when you feel like you are throwing the ball well.     

Good luck in sorting out and good luck at nationals!

Scott
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Re: Nationals in a week and a half, HELP!
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2013, 09:01:20 AM »
I feel your pain. I was at at 204 and 200 on two nights last year with regular 700's. Now I am now at 194, 194, and 188 and its all I can do to break 600 now. At the beginning of the year, I bought a new ball, and shortened my spans to fit more comfortable. Then I was to where I struggled to keep from throwing the ball past the breakpoint. I picked up an old ball with the stretched span and realized I was dropping the ball in the past and now that extra speed was making it hard on me. Also, I've been reading and learning as much as possible about layouts and learned the new ball I bought was drilled wrong for me. Now I have bought another ball (which I laid out myself this time) added a couple of balance holes to a couple of balls get the layouts closer to where I need them and I am hopefully headed back uphill. I'm basically having to teach myself to bowl again.

Are you using the same equipment as last year? Maybe Used a different proshop? I know this wasn't a lot of the help you were looking for just wanted to let you know you weren't alone.

BigBaller

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Re: Nationals in a week and a half, HELP!
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2013, 12:13:13 PM »
No worries about the help. Thank you all for the replies and suggestions. I am at 206 on Wednesday night and 200 even on Thursday night.

My problem isn't spares. Over a whole season i am 95% on my single pin spares and it is usually left side spares. I miss more 7 pins than anything. I can throw any ball dead straight. That is why i don't take a plastic ball with me.

Practice tonight  and tomorrow, then next weekend also. Thanks guys i appreciate the time you take to suggest things for me to try.