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machine35

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household products
« on: January 26, 2015, 06:50:36 PM »
I just bought two bowling balls from the thrift store and i was wondering was the best household product i can use to restore it or just make it clean as new?
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Re: household products
« Reply #61 on: January 30, 2015, 05:18:06 PM »
Quote from: Aloarjr810 on January 28, 2015, 07:56:33 PM
Quote from: BMFOBR on January 28, 2015, 06:13:29 PM
Are you talking Simple green already in a spray bottle or the concentrate like I am talking about.

That would be the spray bottle, But the concentrate still has water in it also (I don't have the info sheet for it to get the percentage.)

By using the water in the other mix, your diluting the alcohol a lot. that's why you have to use the higher 94% alcohol. (the alcohol helps with residue removal & evaporation)

Given if you wanted to use concentrate, you should mix the concentrate separately as per the SGC instructions first. Then use that mix to make the 50/50 mix of SG & Alcohol.


As I said if you or or anybody wants to use a different mix, that's fine.

This whole 50/50 or 1/3rd mix debate has been going on for a long time and I'm sure will continue. As long as whatever mix someone uses cleans their ball to their satisfaction that's what counts.

Perfectly said, my man.
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BMFOBR

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« Reply #62 on: January 30, 2015, 05:28:37 PM »
where do you get the "wintergreen" alcohol?   I see lots of people here flunked chemistry.  Look up "surfactant".  Look up "detergent".  Amazing how people who don't use something will put it down and not use it. 

I thought the un-moderated forum of this site was gone.  Good imitation of it in this thread.  You should all be ashamed.   
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« Reply #63 on: January 30, 2015, 07:48:05 PM »
Orange clean, alcohol, and water.  Roughly equal amounts of each.
No, I do not measure them out...
Orange clean from the spray bottle, not concentrate...

Works for me...

People that borrow it can't tell it isn't Ebonite's Energizer Cleaner..(That's the spray bottle I put it in  ;) )
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« Reply #64 on: January 30, 2015, 09:44:19 PM »
I was told about the 1/3 SG, 1/3 alcohol and 1/3 water mixture on this site many years ago and have been using it and passing the info on to my bowling friends ever since. I have found that it cleans as well or better than any cleaner made just for bowling balls. I love Valentino's  Remedy, but can honestly say I've used Remedy and followed with the Simple Green mixture and removed more dirt and oil. I will say that as part of my routine, I follow the Simple Green mixture with Windex and the ball is absolutely tacky clean afterwards. I do occasionally hot water bath or use Clean and Dull and have never lost performance on any ball I own!! I also will say the Simple Green mixture has never dulled any ball I've used  it on!!!!!!!
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« Reply #65 on: March 07, 2015, 04:33:23 PM »
Don't know about that but it is nice to know that people have found out about how well this homemade cleaner works and are willing to talk about it.  Sure beats paying $10-$15 a bottle for a fancy label with basically the same ingredients.
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« Reply #66 on: March 07, 2015, 07:39:25 PM »
 Whats wrong with driving a BMW and being a nerd?
Quote from: jutze on March 07, 2015, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: BMFOBR on January 30, 2015, 05:28:37 PM
where do you get the "wintergreen" alcohol?   I see lots of people here flunked chemistry.  Look up "surfactant".  Look up "detergent".  Amazing how people who don't use something will put it down and not use it. 

I thought the un-moderated forum of this site was gone.  Good imitation of it in this thread.  You should all be ashamed.

Excellent post.  Sounds like a bunch of Cali, BMW driving, IT nerds in this thread.
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« Reply #67 on: March 09, 2015, 08:40:33 AM »
Yep. Wintergreen alcohol can be found at most places you find regular rubbing alcohol.

BTW - love my beamer!
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« Reply #68 on: March 09, 2015, 04:08:33 PM »
Quote from: tuckinfenpin on March 09, 2015, 08:40:33 AM
BTW - love my beamer!

BTW - It's Bimmer, unless you're talking about bikes, then Beamer would be correct :)
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« Reply #69 on: March 09, 2015, 06:58:33 PM »
Quote from: ImBackInTheGame on March 09, 2015, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: tuckinfenpin on March 09, 2015, 08:40:33 AM
BTW - love my beamer!

BTW - It's Bimmer, unless you're talking about bikes, then Beamer would be correct :)

I have both the BMW motorcycle and BMW car. The tag of "Beamer" works fine for both.  :)
 
To the subject, there is a huge difference in the effectiveness of commercial 'before and after competition' cleaners, and cheap home brews. Anyone who has experimented seriously knows this. But if the objective is to achieve some level of cleaning without being 100% through, then experiment with home remedies at will.
 
Everything is a trade off.
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« Reply #70 on: March 09, 2015, 07:13:08 PM »
Quote from: Steven on March 09, 2015, 06:58:33 PM
To the subject, there is a huge difference in the effectiveness of commercial 'before and after competition' cleaners, and cheap home brews. Anyone who has experimented seriously knows this. But if the objective is to achieve some level of cleaning without being 100% through, then experiment with home remedies at will.

I haven't yet found a home brew solution that is as effective as the commercial 'before and after competition' cleaners that I've tried.  But the home brew cleaners, in my experience, are as effective as the 'approved anytime' cleaners out there (that I've tried).  And much cheaper to boot.

I now use the home brew cleaners after every session.  And probably the before and after cleaners once a week or so.
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« Reply #71 on: March 09, 2015, 10:23:46 PM »
Quote from: Drinyth on March 09, 2015, 07:13:08 PM
Quote from: Steven on March 09, 2015, 06:58:33 PM
To the subject, there is a huge difference in the effectiveness of commercial 'before and after competition' cleaners, and cheap home brews. Anyone who has experimented seriously knows this. But if the objective is to achieve some level of cleaning without being 100% through, then experiment with home remedies at will.

I haven't yet found a home brew solution that is as effective as the commercial 'before and after competition' cleaners that I've tried.  But the home brew cleaners, in my experience, are as effective as the 'approved anytime' cleaners out there (that I've tried).  And much cheaper to boot.

I now use the home brew cleaners after every session.  And probably the before and after cleaners once a week or so.

Then you haven't tried LMB International High Performance cleaner. It will shame any commercial after market cleaner of which I am aware.
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Re: household products
« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2015, 10:28:04 PM »
Quote from: Steven on March 09, 2015, 06:58:33 PM
Quote from: ImBackInTheGame on March 09, 2015, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: tuckinfenpin on March 09, 2015, 08:40:33 AM
BTW - love my beamer!

BTW - It's Bimmer, unless you're talking about bikes, then Beamer would be correct :)

I have both the BMW motorcycle and BMW car. The tag of "Beamer" works fine for both.  :)
 
To the subject, there is a huge difference in the effectiveness of commercial 'before and after competition' cleaners, and cheap home brews. Anyone who has experimented seriously knows this. But if the objective is to achieve some level of cleaning without being 100% through, then experiment with home remedies at will.
 
Everything is a trade off.

Well, there you have it TDC, Robadat, and any others who have found great success with the homemade cleaners.  If Steven says it isn't so, it isn't so.  The arroganceof the above post  is unbelievable. 
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TDC57

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Re: household products
« Reply #73 on: March 09, 2015, 11:02:17 PM »
I'm not messing with success! No ball death ever!!!!
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« Reply #74 on: March 10, 2015, 02:42:17 AM »
Quote from: charlest on March 09, 2015, 10:23:46 PM
Quote from: Drinyth on March 09, 2015, 07:13:08 PM
I haven't yet found a home brew solution that is as effective as the commercial 'before and after competition' cleaners that I've tried.  But the home brew cleaners, in my experience, are as effective as the 'approved anytime' cleaners out there (that I've tried).  And much cheaper to boot.

I now use the home brew cleaners after every session.  And probably the before and after cleaners once a week or so.

Then you haven't tried LMB International High Performance cleaner. It will shame any commercial after market cleaner of which I am aware.

Nope, I haven't tried any of the LMB products yet.  Mostly because there are a few different ones and I wasn't sure which was which.

Now that you've specified the "High Performance" one, maybe I'll give that a shot next time.  Out of curiosity, is it a gel type cleaner like Clean N Dull?  Or a spray on liquid?
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« Reply #75 on: March 10, 2015, 06:50:33 AM »
Quote from: Drinyth on March 10, 2015, 02:42:17 AM
Quote from: charlest on March 09, 2015, 10:23:46 PM
Quote from: Drinyth on March 09, 2015, 07:13:08 PM
I haven't yet found a home brew solution that is as effective as the commercial 'before and after competition' cleaners that I've tried.  But the home brew cleaners, in my experience, are as effective as the 'approved anytime' cleaners out there (that I've tried).  And much cheaper to boot.

I now use the home brew cleaners after every session.  And probably the before and after cleaners once a week or so.

Then you haven't tried LMB International High Performance cleaner. It will shame any commercial after market cleaner of which I am aware.

Nope, I haven't tried any of the LMB products yet.  Mostly because there are a few different ones and I wasn't sure which was which.

Now that you've specified the "High Performance" one, maybe I'll give that a shot next time.  Out of curiosity, is it a gel type cleaner like Clean N Dull?  Or a spray on liquid?

It's a spray that is alcohol based, but a very strong alcohol with a very strong aroma. If you have asthma or any lung disease, I'd suggest you not try it. It is approved for use during competition.
Buddies is the only online place that I know of that carries it. Unfortunately it is only available in 1 quart containers:
http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-779-lmb-international-high-performance-bowling-ball-cleaner-32oz.aspx
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