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Big-T

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Anyone ever bowl in a league that sets handicap at 100% of 240?
« on: August 16, 2006, 01:10:41 AM »
If so how did that work out?

One of the teams with high averages were complaining of getting pencil whipped alot last season and according to the USBC this type of handicap system is the most fair for all.

Any thoughts or experiences?
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tjj300

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Re: Anyone ever bowl in a league that sets handicap at 100% of 240?
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2006, 03:52:36 PM »
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The only problem is that you still have bowlers(a vast majority in the houses in which I bowl) who think that anyone over 200 should not get handicap at all.


When it comes to league meetings, bowlers can be some of the dumbest blocks of granite you can find! Anytime you set the handicap average under the averages of the best bowlers in the league, you are giving the best bowlers a huge gift in pins.  To be fair you always have to set the handicap average far enough over the best bowler in the league that no one will hit it.



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Rileybowler

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Re: Anyone ever bowl in a league that sets handicap at 100% of 240?
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2006, 03:59:48 PM »
I have bowled in one the last 3 or 4 years and it is very difficult for the better bowlers to win especially if you have a lot of teams with 2 or 3 players that have an average of 100 to 120 that is an awful lot to overcome . For example the 120 bowler has an 80 pin handicap lets say he bowls a 170 and your average is 185 you have a 15 pin handicap in order to beat that player you would have to bowl a 236 and if a couple of them bowl a 150 you're in big trouble sometimes my team had over 200 pins to make up in a game and that is a lot.
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Re: Anyone ever bowl in a league that sets handicap at 100% of 240?
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2006, 04:02:46 PM »
Our handicap is 100% of 200 and one of the lower average teams won the championship  its easier for someone with a 100 average to bowl 50 pins over their average than for a 185 average to bowl 50 pins over their average
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Re: Anyone ever bowl in a league that sets handicap at 100% of 240?
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2006, 11:04:07 PM »
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Oddly, I remember reading a little while ago, that ABC research showed that lower average bowlers are equalized to higher average bowlers when the handicap is 110%. Anything lower than that gives the advantage to higher average bowlers. That was their statistical theory.


LOL! The ABC/USBC lost control of bowling many moons ago, and as membership declined, they realized that lower average league bowlers were their bread and butter. So in their attempts to pander to this group, they came up with this fairy tale that 110% handicap is the way to go. What a crock.

Actually, Strider got it right with his following statement:

   
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I always felt the higher the handicap, the more advantage it is to the lower average bowler.  


And the reasons is fairly simple:

1) The higher one's average, the more difficult it is to further improve.
2) The higher one's avaerge, the more volatile individual game scores tend to be.

I'll focus on #2 for illustration. In my case, I'm currently averaging 240 in my summer league. I state this not to brag, because I'm not a real 240. I'm a house hack who has learned to exploit the conditions at my home house. I bring this up because I have the highest average in our 100% doubles handicap league, and my team is in dead last place.

A big part of the reason is that more than half my games are less than my 240 average. A typical night will go something like this: 225-279-230-230. In this case we'll usually win the 1 game I go big, but most often lose the other 3 games where I'm below average. It's hard to compete when I'm shooting 3 out of 4 games below average, but that type of volatility happens a lot when an average is at the higher end.

Don't by into the "high averages dominate handicap" nonsense. Common sense and simple math says it isn't so.
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