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Joe Jr

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How come a ball like the Helix was never tried again?
« on: February 22, 2009, 03:29:29 AM »
It was so far ahead of it's time and was such an amazing idea. And it worked well. So how come it was never tried again? Was it too expensive to make?
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Re: How come a ball like the Helix was never tried again?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2009, 11:38:59 AM »
coverstock technology advanced to the point they probably thought it wasn't needed
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Re: How come a ball like the Helix was never tried again?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2009, 11:58:37 AM »
A few thoughts on that type of ball:

I suspect the manufacturing process was both tedious, expensive and had a larger than average number of quality control problems. Most manufacturers don't even want complex cores like the old Track ones. Anything to reduce production costs.

Also, as it flared across the resin from the urethane section, it also recrossed the urethane section. Today's technologies allow mixtures of solid and resin as well as resin plus particle in the same ball. So I would also guess that they can emulate the result of the better Helix, the Helix II (the blue and red one), with today's balls.

Such a ball would probably sell in extremely low numebrs, with 99% of the people wanting "balls that make left turns on heavy oil". It would more than likely be discontinued very quickly due to low sales. Look at most control balls (another small segment of the ball populaiton, but loved by many of us)  in today's market. How many stay around for any length of time? Very few (except Visionary's and they are the exception).
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Re: How come a ball like the Helix was never tried again?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2009, 10:43:27 AM »
Something I found out when using mine (I had both models) was that what I needed to be able to do with it was actually against the rules.

I needed to be able to sand the plastic part and leave the resin part semi-polished. If I polished everything, it would never read. If I sanded everything, it read too early.

I shot some big games with that ball but it was either (a) when the condition was right for it or (b) when I was playing a "plastic" line somewhat similar to where Jeff Carter was playing on the telecast Sunday. Otherwise, it was an endless array of bucket leaves.

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Re: How come a ball like the Helix was never tried again?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2009, 03:28:49 PM »
the "plastic" part of the helix was actually urethane........

Joe Jr

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Re: How come a ball like the Helix was never tried again?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2009, 03:38:18 PM »
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Something I found out when using mine (I had both models) was that what I needed to be able to do with it was actually against the rules.

I needed to be able to sand the plastic part and leave the resin part semi-polished. If I polished everything, it would never read. If I sanded everything, it read too early.

I shot some big games with that ball but it was either (a) when the condition was right for it or (b) when I was playing a "plastic" line somewhat similar to where Jeff Carter was playing on the telecast Sunday. Otherwise, it was an endless array of bucket leaves.

Jess


I did the opposite, I kept the urethane polished and sanded the reactive part.
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Re: How come a ball like the Helix was never tried again?
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2009, 09:15:05 PM »
One word to answer that question, Cost.

It's hard enough getting the average bowler to pay for a $200 high end release when they see it online for $129 with free shipping.  Plus, the concept didn't work that well for the majority of players.  I know for everyone I've seen with a Helix and my experience with mine, it was a "go long and jump sideways anywhere between 40-55 feet".  Not fun having to guess when that thing was going to make a move.
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