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leftyinsnellville

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Attacking the Shark...
« on: July 27, 2009, 07:13:24 AM »
I face the Shark pattern for the first time this week, and would appreciate a general description of a good strategy.

I do not know if it's the newest Shark, but I'd presume it's probably last year's Shark pattern.

I am a stroker with medium low revs.  Last week on the Scorpion I had good results using balls with some surface.  Started with the Ogre Particle, and finished with the Epic Quest and Black Widow Bite.

I note that the Shark pattern is longer than the Scorpion, but the volume looks to be a good bit lighter.  

Just guessing, maybe a Break S-75 would be a good piece to start with, and perhaps follow up with a low rg pearl or hybrid...maybe my Wild Ride?


 

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Re: Attacking the Shark...
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2009, 03:32:24 PM »
shark is one of the better patterns for me. i try to start as close to the track area as i can, but the lane surface dictates how close to it i can stay. normally i can start with a higher end ball with some polish, then i start moving in with mid level balls like a hot rod ss pearl. once the shot breaks down im looking for length but a smooth controlled backend. with the length being 44 feet the last time i checked, you want you angles to be straighter in the front part of the lane. try to keep the ball as direct as possible without pointing it. most of the strokers ive watched seem to struggle when the transition hits. the hardest thing about shark for me is the change of direction at the back of the pattern. i have alot of hand and axis rotation, so it makes controlling the backend difficult. so i really concentrate on coming up the back of the ball to smooth out the backend. hope that helps some!
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Re: Attacking the Shark...
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2009, 03:42:10 PM »
The Shark plays differently in every house obviously, and even different from day-to-day, but in our PBAX league, the pattern started VERY tight but opened up a ton as the night went on.  The higher rev guys had trouble with the backends flying, but us strokers were able to play the midlane read and not worry about the backends jumping.  Basically the only two balls I used on it were a Cell (pin under the middle finger, around 5.5" from my PAP) with the MB in a strong position, and a Gravity Shift with the pin over ring, MB just barely right of the thumb.  Both balls were sanded using Resurrection to around 800 grit CAMI (somewhere halfway between 1000 abralon and 2000 abralon)  The key for me was to start in the track area, playing around the 12 board, going pretty direct up the boards.  Once the shot started to break down, which it did quickly, I had to move left with my feet to keep the ball in fresh head oil, and get the ball to pick up in the midlane on the friction I was creating.  As the night went on, I kept moving left with the Cell, then switched to the Gravity Shift for the last game one week.  The final week on the Shark, it dried even quicker than the previous weeks, and I used a polished Spit Fire by the end of the 4th game and had a good look with it.

So the key is to create friction early on, then use it to your advantage as the night goes on.

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Re: Attacking the Shark...
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2009, 03:45:21 PM »
I'm a high rev, even higher speed lefty and i've had good success lately on the Shark playing a tight line from in, starting in around 15-16 at the arrows and keeping the ball around 12 downlane. Once that spot burns up a little I make the move into about 20 and go around it a little more getting the ball out to about the 9-10 board I also slow the ball speed down and get on it a little harder when I move in. My goal is not get too far away from the pocket because of the massive OB on this pattern your just asking for trouble covering too many boards.

Chances are you won't be able to play out on the shark unless your center has some major friction towards the gutter but even you can get the ball back from there I wouldn't, the shot isn't there and your just asking for trouble later in the games.

In the 4 weeks ive been on it in 2 PBA leagues and a tournament I bowled on it over the weekend, I've thrown 2 balls, a pin down Paradigm Passion with good amount of surface and a pin down Gamebreaker at 2000Grit. At the tourney I threw the Gamebreaker for all 5 games.
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leftyinsnellville

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Re: Attacking the Shark...
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2009, 11:24:03 AM »
Well tonight's the night, first time on the Shark.

Opted to go with some reliable balls...my Break S-75, Break Pearl, and the Creature.  Also bringing along the Mega-Friction, just in case.  Maybe another solid, too.  

Any opinions on what the Maniac a 1000 will do on the Shark?

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Re: Attacking the Shark...
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2009, 12:41:16 PM »
I have noticed and i think others have to. Sometimes the shark doesn't play that heavy volume wise, it is just long. And the heads can get fried really quick

I tried using my Bounty hunter the other night on it, and it was burning up. It was hard to tell it was doing it, still hooking but not as much as the week prior when alot of my weaker equipment was going strait and laboring. I figured out it was losing energy in as the game kept moving forward it was laboring more and more.

Pulled out my Break pearl after struggling to get my Bounty hunter to react properly and had alot more room, to bad it was to late mid 3rd game. Shot terrible 474. Was really hungover though, haha.

Don't let the length fool you everytime, week to week, lane to lane it is different.
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leftyinsnellville

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Re: Attacking the Shark...
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2009, 08:59:45 AM »
Damn, and I thought the Scorpion was difficult.  I struggled big time last night on the Shark.

No matter what ball I used, if I went outside 11 the ball skidded and came in light.  

But my more aggressive equipment would jump high if I threw inside of 11.  I ended up starting with the Maniac at 1000, and after the second game I switched to my Creature at 2000.  Of course neither had a really big move, but at least they would hold the line when they encountered friction.  Ended up throwing both straight down 13, moved in a little midway through the third game with the Creature and got a more pronounced hook.  Regardless, the margin for error was razor thin.

I think I made the mistake of starting inside too much because once the Maniac started hitting heavy, I was kind of stuck for a while.  I tried moving in, but the Maniac wouldn't recover from the slight inside out angle.  I was lucky that the Creature hung on as well as it did, but it also started getting a little jumpy and I had the same problem...move in and it wouldn't recover, move out and it skidded.

We only took one out of seven points.  Lost the first game by thirty.  Won the second game by 100 (had a good look with the Maniac for a chunk of that game).  Lost the third game by 30, and lost the 4th game by a little more than 40.  Missed winning the three points for total by just a few pins.

Next week we bowl the same team for the championship on the same pattern, and if I do the same next week as I did this week, we're toast.

Any suggestions as to the best way to break the Shark pattern down?

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Re: Attacking the Shark...
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2009, 10:55:32 AM »
I've seen Bob Hanson post in a lot of Shark threads this summer and I agree 100% with what he's said in all of them. Go straighter and don't use too much surface.

Shark was one of my better patterns this summer. Like you, if I tried something with surface and swung it outside of 10 it would not come back. If I threw the same balls straighter inside of 10 it was somewhat over/under.

What worked for me was playing straight up 7-8-9 board with a Shift to start. It played tight and the carry wasn't the best the first game but I didn't leave anything I couldn't cover doing that. After the first 1-2 games it opened up and I could play a small swing shot, say 12-13 out to 8-9 and the carry improved a lot and scores went up.

I have to be patient for the first game or two on Shark and just keep the ball in play, make spares and hope to catch a double somewhere. Once it opens up the scores improve a lot, but don't expect to cover a lot of boards even after it opens up.


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Re: Attacking the Shark...
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2009, 08:35:16 AM »
I had better success on the Shark last night.  Thanks for the advice everybody!

Summary of final night of PBA Experience League

As it was the final night of the season we had to bowl the second place team.  The wife and I had to take 2 points out of 7 to stay in first place.

I threw my sanded Columbia Reaction Arc during practice...it's an oil magnet and I played straight up 9 hoping to burn a spot in the pattern to bounce off of.

Game 1 - Moved out 2 and 1 and threw my 900 Global Bounty.  Didn't charge hard to the pocket, but was still able to manage a 206 and we took the first game.  1 point down, one to go.  

Game 2 - Continued with the Bounty but was having some carry issues...went high on the first couple of shots but when I moved out it came in light.  Switched to my new Hammer Burn and moved out a bit.  Also had a little trouble keeping it out of the nose, and had the same problem with moving out.  Only managed a 170 and we lost the second game.

Game 3 - Decided to switch to the Hammer Black Onyx Vibe and played 13 to 9...again wasn't a devastating move but the Onyx carried fairly well and left easy spares.  Got in the 190s, but the wife threw a great game for her (154 with an 8 lb. plastic ball) so we won the third game and got our needed 2 points to finish in first!  

Game 4 - Continued with the Onyx and left 4 pin in the first frame after hitting a little high.  I threw my Swarm straight up 5 to pick it up and it jumped to the pocket missing the 4.  I was pretty surprised until I realized that one of my opponents was a high rev lefty who was playing that part of the lane.  So I threw the Swarm straight up 5 from then on and had my best game...but we lost because the wife had a terrible game.  Our opponents finally lit it up and smoked us by 70 pins to take their second point and the 3 points for total pins.

All four balls were at OOB condition.  Overall I had a lot of fun in my first PBA Experience league.  I'm signing up for the Sunday night PBA Experience league for the fall.  Should be another great time.