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Overhand

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How do I calm a reaction down?
« on: January 20, 2005, 05:07:18 AM »
My wife throws a fair release (certainly could be more consistent) swinging from 12 to 6 with an Ebonite Ice.  The problem is her speed is too slow in relationship to her release and so in this particular (dry) house, the ball digs in and hooks too much.  (You should see her throw the V2 strong...sheesh).

Any ways, while I am working with her on how to project ball deeper down the lane, I don't thinks it's going to sink in.  On here league she invariably ends up throwing a plastic ball which hooks fine, but carries crap.

I'm think of getting her another 15lb urethane or polishing something up very shiny.  Any suggestions?

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LuckyLefty

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Re: How do I calm a reaction down?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2005, 01:16:00 PM »
There are some pearl urethane's out there but a good improvement in technique and Ebo Ice should work in the long run.

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Re: How do I calm a reaction down?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2005, 01:16:43 PM »
you do have a few options.
1)polish the ball, just be careful what polish you use, because most makes the backend reacion much strong. There are a few that tame the overall reaction instead of just making it go longer. I cannot think of the names right now, Im sure someone can tell you.
2)Get a urethane with a core, like from visionary, or something like that.
3)pay $1000000000000000000 for a lane one XXXL
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Re: How do I calm a reaction down?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2005, 01:21:47 PM »

 
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3)pay $1000000000000000000 for a lane one XXXL


bk, i've told you a million times not to exagerate...

LL, you got some ideas on how to improve that technique? I know what I do to shoot dry but that stuff doesn't seem to work for her.  


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TheBowlingKid25

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Re: How do I calm a reaction down?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2005, 01:22:52 PM »
lol sorry I couldnt resist. Has she simply tried moving deeper yet?
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Re: How do I calm a reaction down?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2005, 01:27:36 PM »

The farthest she's moved is to 15...go further and she's into the ball return because of angled approach.  Making the significant change to her approach needed to go any deeper will likely cause a divorce.

I'm hoping to get a milder ball that can still carry to get her confidence back up before we mess with her form again.

Does Visionary make the only pearl urethane?




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Re: How do I calm a reaction down?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2005, 01:46:16 PM »
I don't know how much further down the lane you need the ball to go, but you might want to check out Ron Clifton's article on finger dancing.  If I remember right, keeping your index and pinky finger close to the middle and ring, should make the ball progress down the lane further before it begins to read.  

Polishing a ball will give it more length, but also a snappier backend.  One thing you can tinker with, is polishing the ball and then lightly scuffing it with like a grey scotchbrite, enough to tame the snap a little.
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Strike300

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Re: How do I calm a reaction down?
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2005, 01:46:20 PM »
How about changing finger positions. Pull the index in and pinky out.
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Overhand

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Re: How do I calm a reaction down?
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2005, 01:56:25 PM »
Thanx!  Good comments...gonna try finger dancing first, then polish the crap out of an "ebonite 8 ball", then start looking visionary urethane.


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Re: How do I calm a reaction down?
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2005, 02:17:30 PM »
Overhand -- Is this the only house she bowls in? If so, and you're trying to fit one ball to these lane conditions I would first polish the Ice in steps up to 3000 grit.  If it still breaks too much, try a balance hole on her PAP to about 1/2 oz negative side weight.  If it's still too strong, throw it in a ball polisher that's using wax.  If it's still too strong, I'd skip the Slate Blue and go to a three piece urethane like the Red Hammer, or go to the web site below and order one of the classic Faball Hammers.  --  JohnP

http://www.bowlingball.com/Category/Hammer-Faball%201980/27/0/ProductName/10/category_27.html
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Re: How do I calm a reaction down?
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2005, 02:18:34 PM »
Neo-Tac makes a product called Control-It.  It is easily applied by hand.  This causes the ball to skid an extra couplde feet, but unlike most other polishes, it keeps the backend reaction the same or may even reduce it a little.  
http://www.neotac.com/products/controlit/controlit.html

works very well and is a $10 solution...  if you don't like it, a light refinish will remove the product.  

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Re: How do I calm a reaction down?
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2005, 03:43:22 PM »
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LL, you got some ideas on how to improve that technique?


That angled approach would be a great place to start.  If she can't get any deeper than 15 feet, she can't chase the edge of the oil (assuming there is oil in) and even if you find something weak enough to work in the dirt, she's losing any area the oil edge provides.

If she's insistent on the equipment adjustment, what is the layout on the Ice?  Get that pin 5+ inches away from her PAP and up above the fingers for as much finger weight as you can.  Polishing, as others have mentioned, will help as well.  You'll want to avoid the wax, however, unless you want to kill the ball completely (and not be able to use it on other conditions)


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Re: How do I calm a reaction down?
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2005, 01:00:39 AM »
Slow ball speed calls for sanding the ball, not polishing it.  Sanding the ball will take the "reactive" out of the reactive resin ball, and should allow for a smoother, calmer transition.  It also depends just how dry is dry, but I'd recommend sanding before polishing for someone with slow ball speed.

Are these lanes "short-oil" dry, or are they just super thinly oiled?  Makes a difference  I am assuming it is long oil but very thin, which is what many centers do for women's leagues (why?).  Sanding the ball will work in this situation.  If it's short oil, then yeah, try urethane.
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