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how do you determine if a ball hit hard or weak?
« on: March 29, 2004, 12:54:37 AM »
I was curious what you guys think makes a bowling ball hit hard or weak.  I've had a couple of bowling balls that hit really hard and you just get one of those feelings, and then there's those others that hit really weak and leave all of these funky pin counts even though you know it's the ball and not you.  So I was wondering if there was something special to look for in a ball in it's specs that would determine if the bowling ball would hit hard.  2nd question, how do you know what ball will hit the pins and make them fly around on the ground and not in the air to get better carry.  and it also might be in the drilling so I'd appreciate it if you tell me what you think might be the cause of these 2 things that I've mentioned.

 

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Re: how do you determine if a ball hit hard or weak?
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2004, 03:57:24 PM »
personally I dont think there is such thing as a ball that "hits hard" or "weak", its all about roll, entry angle, and energy stored. I mean besides plastic
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Re: how do you determine if a ball hit hard or weak?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2004, 04:00:34 PM »
ok sorry, any plastic besides the lane 1 plastic
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Re: how do you determine if a ball hit hard or weak?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2004, 04:02:03 PM »
Balls are so powerful nowadays its hard to tell if it really is you or the ball. Tell tale signs of weak hits for me are weak tens (6 pin falls flat in the gutter or 6 pin hits the front of the 10 pin rather meekly), blowout 7-10's assuming it wasn't a bad rack, 2 pins or 2-8-10's assuming you didn't throw it too fast. Powerful hits are LOUD and flush and all pins are in the pit not in gutter or rolling around on the deck. It is also my believe that messengers don't mean a strong ball was thrown. Its usually due to coming in behind the headpin causing it to careen off the sidewalls and taking out anything left standing.
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Re: how do you determine if a ball hit hard or weak?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2004, 04:30:52 PM »
i will agree that lane conditions and ball matchups do dictate, for the most part, how "hard" a ball hits.  but some balls are more consistent than others...they roll more consistently, drive better thru the pocket, and maintain a similar breakpoint on whatever condition youre bowling on.  these balls are the ones we say "hit" harder than others.  but i will say that i do think there are microscopic differences that do affect the way a ball hits, i just dont think anyone has come accross them yet.  im not exactly sure what they could be, but there has to be some differences that we dont know about yet that do affect the hit power of different companies.  as far as leaving lite 10's and 2-pins and 2-8-10's, that all has to do with ball reaction, and is in no way a part of determining how hard a ball hits.  i wish they would make a machine that could test this(maybe they already have) by rolling different balls through teh pocket at teh same angles and speeds and see how the carry changes.  thats the best way to see if there really is a difference...because if it has to do only with roll and angle of entry, every ball should carry the same.
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Re: how do you determine if a ball hit hard or weak?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2004, 06:34:44 PM »
As to whether a ball hits hard or not is usually dictated by match up of core cover and lane condition.

If a ball drives through the pocket without deflecting often times it hits hard. Overall a good match up.  If the ball deflects alot after hitting the pocket and slap the nine pin in the face for a righty then this is a weak hit and often times leaves 10 pins.  

So watch what your ball does after it hits the pocket.


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Re: how do you determine if a ball hit hard or weak?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2004, 06:54:46 PM »
Actually, I do think that different balls provide different pin reactions for different bowlers.  If that is too many differences, let me put it this way:  I can see where a ball reacts well to the condition for which it is designed, whether it can be played from normal angles and store energy and how it causes the pins to fall.  Some balls make distinctive sounds when they hit the pins, others are almost silent, but the key in my view is whether the ball drives or fluffs for my style on the conditions for which it is supposedly created.  And, for some reason, some balls just match up better with certain styles, leading to better reactions, better angle, better energy storage and more carry.
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Re: how do you determine if a ball hit hard or weak?
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2004, 10:00:25 PM »
Anything that touches my hand is hard hitting.  I'll be signing autographs next weekend from 2-5 after my seminar on "how to bowl a 300 everytime out."
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Re: how do you determine if a ball hit hard or weak?
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2004, 10:03:39 PM »
It also differs from bowler to bowler. A ball that I think might hit hard someone else may think that it hits weak. Or vice versa. From my latest equipment that I have my Buzzsaw Carbide C Pearl hits harder then my Scream R and my TKO. However there are nights when my TKO hits harder and nights when my Scream R hits harder. It depends on how well they are throwen and also how well they also react on the lane. So who is to really say what hits hard and what hits weak.
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