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chipmunkbowler

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how do you know where to play the lanes?
« on: August 21, 2009, 03:30:29 AM »
i myself am a young bowler who is very particular in terms of versatility.
i use speed rotation and sometimes rev rate to play the lanes in different ways.

in most tournaments i bowl in we get 5 minutes of practice then it starts and that gives my the issue of making the wrong decision in terms of lane play.

in the tournaments where the bowlers only get a short amount of time to practice to line up what should i do to let myself know where to play the lanes?

BTW: we never know the pattern we bowl on

 

chipmunkbowler

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Re: how do you know where to play the lanes?
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2009, 12:57:10 PM »
what i am concerned about is when i get the ball to hit the pocket it is concerning i get it leaving weak tens 5 7s etc. and then when i throw it harder to save its energy it will not hook from anywhere on the lane? i have tried polishes i think the only thing left is to loft it alot?

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Re: how do you know where to play the lanes?
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2009, 02:39:06 PM »
Well first figure out the part of the lane to play

If you know the pattern length that is down...a very simple formula known as the Magic 31..gives you the break point you should be at....

Take length of pattern and minus 31 from it..

So if pattern lenght is 35....35-31=4....so gutter..

Pattern is 42 - 31 = 11....inside 2nd arrow so inside line..

Pattern is 39 - 31 = 8.....outside 2nd arrow..

This give you a head start as to wear to attack the pattern at....
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Re: how do you know where to play the lanes?
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2009, 03:10:54 PM »
srlunatic, is correct to use the magic number 31. Now go to Joe Slowinski web site www.bowlingknowledge.info and look for his article on 3 pt targeting with quiet eye. We just came back from Kegal training center where Joe taught us this. We where  on the 40ft Highway hell pattern one the the flatter of the Kegal sport series.  Joe had us on C.A.T.S. our 1st ten shots looked like a shot gun spray by the end of the day I was within less then 1 board for ten shots at 39 ft and Joe said the target was to be 3 boards . Your range at 39ft was to hit the 7,8,9  I was hitting 7.9 to 8.1 one shot got away to 9.0 but 9 out of 10 was within .2. I am slod on Joe's 3pt targeting is simple once you try it. Hope this helps, and the Kegal training center was worth the time and money to improve my game. I thought i was a good sport shot league bowler. I now have more knowledge from Joe to be a much better bowler.

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Re: how do you know where to play the lanes?
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2009, 03:22:48 PM »
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what i am concerned about is when i get the ball to hit the pocket it is concerning i get it leaving weak tens 5 7s etc. and then when i throw it harder to save its energy it will not hook from anywhere on the lane? i have tried polishes i think the only thing left is to loft it alot?


IMO, you are using the wrong adjustments to combat the leaves.  Most beginner to intermediate bowlers should NOT alter their ball speed or release.  They should be more concerned with developing a well ingrained fundamental speed and release before fumbling around with it.  The direction you are going in, does not develope and A game, which is where you have to start.  

The key to striking vs just hitting the pocket is being able to read your ball movement (which comes with a lot of practice) and being able to move your feet on the lane both horizontally and vertically.  If you can do that, you don't have to change your physical game at all.  

Many weak 7s and 10s are caused by trying to get the ball to hook too much.  In other words, you are standing too far inside and trying to get the ball to hook back too much.  Looks good, but if you don't have the hand and ball speed to go with it, you'll be doing this for years.  Put score ahead of what the ball looks like going down the lane.  However it gets to the pocket and clears off the 10 pins is the best way.  

In general perhaps you are using balls with covers that are too dull for your style?  

You can use this magic 31 formula IF you know the pattern.  Up until just a couple years ago, no one ever knew what the actual numbers were of the oil pattern.  So rather then depend on such things, I believe you would be better off learning to trust your ball movement and path first.  Then once you have a good handle on this (it takes years), coordinating your results with formulas.  

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Re: how do you know where to play the lanes?
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2009, 07:50:47 PM »
Atochabsh

i have worked alot on my A game which is going strait as my lanes do not allow me to hook it easily so i have had to go dead strait from out

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Re: how do you know where to play the lanes?
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2009, 11:58:16 PM »
Chipmunk,

There a lot of good suggestions from above, good links, good info.  I would like to add what "I" do to try and find the best shot.  This works well for me.

I always start on the gutter.  I want to know of the gutter is sparking or out of bounds.  I always want to know where the out of bounds is, if there is any, more than likely I will be left of that area.

If the gutter hooks, then I will try to play there for multiple reasons. One, carry is usually better from that angle, why do you think righties whine about lefties?  They all play the gutter, and usually carry well.  Two, most righties are afraid or don't like to play the gutter, or just plain don't know how.  The THS doesn't teach people to stand on 8, look at 3 and peel it off of first board.  So if less people are bowling there, your shot stays there longer, less traffic.  Back to the why do righties whine about lefties thing again.  Three, I love playing the gutter.  I'm not great at it, but better than most righties.
Four, if the gutter is OB, then I know not to go there, then I keep moving left until I can get a break point that is away from the OB.  Works for me.

Case in point.  Bowled the Planet Bowl Doubles in OKC last weekend.  Limited handicap doubles, three game matches, double elimination.  Young man, Brett Erickson was my partner.  In a bowl I hadn't bowled in since 2001, and heard many bad things about.  Lanes played like a reverse block.  BUT, if you squared up on the gutter, it was the NUTS!!  We lost our first match by 19.  Absolutely my fault, I threw 8 gutter balls on the first ball in the three games.  Was having an anxiety/panic problem and I haven't taken my medicine in over 2 years.  After I was able to calm down, I shot 730 in the next match and we won by over 400.  I shoot 700 and 703 the next two matches and we win by over 300 each of those.  Point is, NOBODY in the rest of the tournament even tried to play the gutter until this point.  Storm Eraser Particle Pearl peeled off the crack like nobody's business!!!

(They re-ran the lanes when down to the cashers, which I think is complete BS.  They fiddled with the machine, cuz there was a nice puddle in the middle.  I could still get it off the gutter, but I think it was crap giving most of the rest of the guys hold at 4th arrow.  We won 5 matches after losing the first one, and were up 51 after two games of the last match, but my man Brett struggled the last set and we lost by 4.  I missed a couple spares too, so the blame is not solely on him.  Brett, myself, and the bowl owner's son, were the only ones playing the gutter, with us just crushing everyone after the first match.  Let the crying begin....  TD tried to mess with Brett saying he was fouling on every shot.  Foul lights weren't on, non-sanctioned, none of the players ever said anything to me or Brett.  Brett is a local kid, they ALL know him.  Just BS.  Probably my fault, I'm new to the area, and not in their click.)

sorry so long, wound up on Mountain Dew!!
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