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BigHorhn

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What heavy oil balls do you Lefty's through.
« on: June 02, 2004, 01:31:01 AM »
Sorry guys this is for the Lefty's. What type of oil balls do you through and
how do you have them setup? LucyLefty, I bought a evolution tour because of the
things you said about it. I am very happy with it but, it leaves me a lot of
seven pins. I need more pop on the backend. How is yours setup for Heavy Oil?
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LuckyLefty

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Re: What heavy oil balls do you Lefty's through.
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2004, 04:35:06 PM »
I've had it drilled twice.

Once pin under bridge and mass bias past the VAL in the instant roll position.

That carried when it really was oily!  Otherwise it rolled out!

Now I've changed it to 4 X 3 with the mass bias on the VAL.  Because the conditions where I've moved are dryer than wence it came it is leaving a lot of 7s too!  Too early!  And then not enough energy.

I don't have this problem with my stacked drill Reaction Roll or AMF Evo Extra.

I think the problem with this ball you have is one must really have really heavyoil!  If you don't it rolls out!

REgards,

LUckylefty
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Re: What heavy oil balls do you Lefty's through.
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2004, 04:36:38 PM »
Im sorry, Im not a lefty, but I think a righty can help just as much as another lefty. Most oil balls dont have alotta 'pop' on the backend, it also depends on what kind of bowler you are. Your profile doesnt provide much information on you, which doesnt help us, the BR members, to help you out. And if a ball is leaving corner pins try stepping forward or backward on the approach a few inches, usually helps, if that doesnt help, the ball isnt saving up enough energy and the oil you think is heavy may not be as heavy as you think.
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Re: What heavy oil balls do you Lefty's through.
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2004, 06:05:16 PM »
There ya go!  I really think it is a matter of how much oil one has.

The other day I bowled on a wet shot.  My Solid reactives couldn't really cut it!

Surprisingly my Ego provided a ton of backend to get to the pocket and strike but it was touchy at the breakpoint.

Switched to the AMF tour and frankly it could reach the pocket easy.  But it was too much!  Weak 7s a rarity for me!  Needed more oil.  Or needed a ball with less surface, more of stacked drilling or a lower load particle.

As a fellow in one of my classes very famously said!  "Approximately how much oil we talkkin about SIR?"

This is the RUB.

Bottom line.  I believe that on many common type oilier surfaces the AMF tour is too much surface!  Therefore drillings with kick outs etc.  ARe just too much.  In general unless one is throwing on tour oil and super long shots stacked and mass bias near thumb retain more flip and energy and work on the common oilier condition with this ball!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS I'd redrill my AMF Tour just out of interest to prove it!(oh a guy on this shot a couple of weaks ago with this straight up drilling did great with the AMF Tour on a similar shot on the pair next to me)
The only reason I won't is that I already have done this with a Reaction Roll and it is great!  Will carry all day!  Only difference is it is not as dramatic at the breakpoint!
PPS mass bias balls like the AMF Tour are very subject to different drillings!
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Re: What heavy oil balls do you Lefty's through.
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2004, 06:24:16 PM »
My oil ball is the V2 Strong.  I'm not sure of the set up.  I let my coach/ball driller make those decisions.
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Re: What heavy oil balls do you Lefty's through.
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2004, 07:28:34 PM »
Amf triumph amp, drilled rev leverage
roto-grip fuel,  same drill

set up for oil, good midlanes,arc to the pocket
particles provide grip & arc
resins provide a snappier backend


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Re: What heavy oil balls do you Lefty's through.
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2004, 10:52:33 PM »

Brunswick Warp Zone: Oil Ball or when I need control in the backends.
Pin - 3" to PAP
CG - 2 1/8" to PAP
Wt. Hole 1 1/16"
2" past PAP
Depth 3"
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Re: What heavy oil balls do you Lefty's through.
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2004, 11:18:05 PM »
my heavy oil ball is  a track animal  drilled 5 1/4 by 0......

really nice heavy oil ball.....  i cant imagine this ball drilled really strong.....  i think it would literately hook 3 lanes if u let it
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Re: What heavy oil balls do you Lefty's through.
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2004, 11:54:16 PM »
My heavy oil ball for now is a V2 Particle. I've had good luck with it over the past couple of years, but I think with the number of games on it (well over 300) it's time for a Hook Again treatment. The way I have it set up is in my profile.

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BigHorhn

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Re: What heavy oil balls do you Lefty's through.
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2004, 10:10:56 AM »
There's allot of good advise here, thank you all. Unfortunely I don't know what my pap is but, LuckyLefty in your stacked drill of your tour where is the pin?
Is it below or above the fingers? I can figure out the other little nuances myself. My ball driller said by the way that "the ball wouldn't flip no matter what I did to it". If that doesn't work I think i'll get an animal.

I read your profile DrachenFire sounds allot like mine. I like the way you
have your equipment set up from angular to arc. I don't like to carry so
many bowlingballs though. Thanks again.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: What heavy oil balls do you Lefty's through.
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2004, 10:26:56 AM »
Your driller is wrong.  The AMF Evo Tour will flip!

Mine even flips after starting early with mass bias on VAL.
That's the problem it is too much usually.

I have seen other tours drilled mass bias on thumb and they flipped even more!
But started later.

I do NOT have a Tour drilled straight up.  But my Reaction Roll wich is 4 inch pin out is drilled 4 1/2 X 4 pin up a bit and cg down a bit.

It both starts up early and flips hard to the pocket.  Lots of continuation and it seems to carry sometimes even when rolled out.

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS note again.  AMF stuff of the Evolution Genra is very strong mass bias.  Drillings are strongly influential to the reaction.  Mass bias is a very strong factor!

You should see my Evolution Extra flip!!!  Great pattern B ball!
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Re: What heavy oil balls do you Lefty's through.
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2004, 10:04:33 AM »
Ball: Dynothane Cure
Drilling: Stacked Leverage
Works well if my arm swing in right.
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