Ok guys i would love to hear some thoughts on Motivs Raptor Attack. I have a chance to get it pick it up for cheap and i have been looking for a strong pearl ball.
Should I pick it up or just get a Lucid or a Primal Scream?

Bowler Info
ball speed: 19-20
rev rate: 380ish
A power tweener for the most part

+1 with Russell.

However, it depends on what you want. The attack was (in real talk) not quite as strong as advertised. Its a rolly pearl with a strong core and medium strength cover and needs friction to be effective. The Scream is not a pearl, its a beast of a ball and does backend but its solid and symmetric so you arent getting but so much. If you were going with Motiv and wanted backend then I'd look into the 2Cruel. Its stronger and more backend than the scream or the sigma tour.
Now the Lucid is probably the strongest pearl to hit the market, point, blank, and period. So if you just wanted UNGODLY hook from a pearl then yes the Lucid would be the answer. Talked to a couple staffers that said it was the strongest backend storm has ever offered. I can just tell you from my experience with motiv (as i own a lot of them) the cores out-generate their covers. They roll extremely well, but they dont offer the huge boomerang most people are looking for.

I would agree with what all.....Russell, RightyComplex and TwoHands834 have said.  I have used some Motiv and currently using a 2Cruel, QZ-1 Red and have a Sigma Tour coming and eventually may see a Primal Scream.  I have used a Primal Impulse, SX-1 and TX-1 in the past.  Motiv is more about some roll and better for me on flatter sport type patterns than lower volume house shots with my stats. 

The Primal Impulse did not backend as I would have thought....now the Scream does seem to be the ball I was looking for when the Impulse came out. 

I can't comment on the Lucid but have seen one rolled and it's all about backend.  If looking for a pearl backend ball for medium to heavy that would be a good ball to look at....for me on house patterns and a pearl I'd looking at AMF Bullwhip SE it would be more usable for my stats. on medium to light-medium that the majority see on house shots as they break down during after transition moving deeper.  If I was looking for a ball kind of like that in the Motiv line though not the boomerang type I'd look at the QZ2 for light-medium.

Lol! Kid I've seen your 170* layout and everything should roll. J/P

Everybody's opinions will be different in that we all have different bowling technique stats.  Mine are in my profile.  We all bowl on different conditions, lane surfaces, patterns.  What I call medium might be medium-heavy to another.

There are some generalities but yes not every ball is going to react the same for everyone.  I do believe that Steve/TwoHands834 and Russell did make some good comments about Motiv.  Plus there is nothing wrong with Motiv's line as they do meet the criteria for the majority.  If they did not they wouldn't be selling.  Motiv has come a long way in a short time.

When the OP posts his stats. then you can narrow it down better.   
What works for me or Joe Blow may not work for him.   

Thanks everybody for the awesome responses!

Quote from: scotts33 on September 20, 2012, 02:06:14 PM

When the OP posts his stats. then you can narrow it down better.   
What works for me or Joe Blow may not work for him.   

What kind of stats are you looking for?

Here are mine...."right hander with average speed 17 mph in heads and 14.5 - 15 at deck on CATS. 300 - 325 rpm's.  Track diameter 11"s and axis tilt 17 deg. Axis rotation 45 - 60 deg. ave.   5" over & 0"  PAP. "

The more information you give the more information others that are knowledgeable can give you back in return.  I understand that not everyone is going to know this detailed information but to get the right ball and layout plus surface for the condition you are bowling on will give you much better success rate.  Good drillers know this and try and match up bowler with equipment for condition.  A good driller can give you the info. I have in my profile.  Then it's all about practice and execution.