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sportwood24

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How many of you are sick of this...
« on: December 01, 2005, 01:59:54 AM »
I bowl on Monday nights at a house that up until this year had wooden lanes and old broken pins...  I averaged around 209 there.  This year they decided to put synthetic lanes in and brand new pins, so I think that this year is going to be great.  It took me FIVE weeks to shoot 600 and my average is barely 190.  The lanes tend to be very oily and very long if I had to guess I would say 42-45 feet.  I start every night with my Ultimate inferno, I have high revs and speed between16-17 mph on the qubica.  I can destroy the rack consistently and leave I dont know how many ten pins, nine pins, eight pins, and sevin-ten splits.  Meanwhile I look at the 75 year old guys bowling next to me throwing ashtray balls 13 mph and barely hitting the headpin and carrying everything.  There are some days that I shoot 500 and some days that I shoot high 6, and I do not change anything about how I throw the ball.  I just cant seem to figure out how I cant carry throwing BOMBS but everyone else doesnt have a problem.  

I also have more breakdown issues than everyone else.  About the third frame every second game like clockwork my Ultimate starts coming in on the nose.  I switch to my absolute and it is fine, then about the 8th frame of the third game it starts getting nosy and I blow 240 250 games.  Everyone else keeps their same up 10 board line all friggin night... Its getting frustrating.  I pick up the ten pin 99% of the time that I leave it, it just seems like I leave it 99% of the time.
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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2005, 10:53:52 AM »


 I feel your pain.... same for me recently. But, I'll get it back eventually.

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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2005, 11:10:41 AM »
Thats the reason why I hate being against the older guys at the Hi Roller events.  They let the ball work and rarely make mistakes.
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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2005, 11:36:55 AM »
sportwood,

I can relate to this as it happened to me last year half way through the season.  Anytime you are switching lane surfaces, you can have the same oil pattern out there, but ball reaction can be pretty different.  It may take a few tweaks of the oil machine to get it close to what you had before.  I bowl in a house where we have the same thing.  New synthetics 38 feet buff to 42.  I leave alot of 9s and 10s.  What is happening is the ball is getting too far down the lane and having a hockey stick like ball reaction.  Granted the Ultimate Inferno is a big hooking highly aggressive ball, but it is still a reactive cover.  On longer or heavier conditions, it can go 45 feet and go dead sideways.  I would recommend maybe something with some particle in the cover for better midlane read.  That should help with carry as the entry angle should not be so steep.  Once they break down, have something to help blend in the wet/dry a little better.  I have the exact same problem you do.  Last night, I go 220-230-190 because last game, I stick two 9 pins and a couple 10s from playing even deep inside.  I can feel your pain as well.  Keep working at it.  It will come around.
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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2005, 12:04:49 PM »
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Good bowlers modify their game to meet the condition.


Good bowlers also understand why they leave corner pins, middle-back-row pins, and combinations like the 7-10 and learn the proper adjustments to increase carry.  Don't focus on the problem, focus on the solution.

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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2005, 12:12:17 PM »
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and I do not change anything about how I throw the ball. I just cant seem to figure out how I cant carry throwing BOMBS but everyone else doesnt have a problem.


That's almost comical. You just told yourself why you're not doing any better than you are.  Of course you're not going to score if you're doing bad and not changing anything about how you're doing the ball.
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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2005, 12:15:46 PM »
The same is happening to me. The new pins are a little more livelier so I've been leaving allot of 10 pins.  The light pocket hits tend to carry a little better in one of my houses now. I'm trying to make the adjustments but I'm still missing a little. I am just using this as a positive experience in that I am now aware of a new weakness in my game. I need to learn to make the proper adjustments ahead of time to score point blank.
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wooddaddy

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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2005, 12:17:27 PM »
Go buy six new balls like every other league hack out there.
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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2005, 12:21:14 PM »
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Go buy six new balls like every other league hack out there.

Only 6?
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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2005, 12:48:18 PM »
Kind of like Nagy putting an video of a new Track ball.  Like it really matters what kind of a ball you toss on that wall.  Duh, toss it out and it will come back because of the dry and miss in 6 boards and it will hold because of all the oil.

After watching his videos, I'm sold!  I'll not ever try anything but a Track.  Please don't forget the Vise grips either.
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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2005, 01:06:41 PM »
Too much speed and too much oil + throwing in the wrong place. The old guys carry because they let their equipment get into a roll.  That is the final phase and necessary for striking.  As long as the ball is sliding or going up the boards or hooking it will not strike.  The lack of ball speed helps the old guys.  Oh by the way they probably grew up in a day when you had to be accurate and learn to read lanes.  Many young guys stand left and throw right and when that doesn't work they are in trouble.  Go to something low rg and dull that may help.  I have the same problem after correcting some timing issues I ended up with a cannon.

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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2005, 01:12:33 PM »
I have the same problem Sportwood. Heres what I did. I used my Atomic Charge for quite sometime. Left it box finished and stood alittle left of 20 (right handed) and through out about 10. Now this would normally come back but I was finding myself moving more outside with this ball still coming up short. Im also a speed dominant player 17-18mph here. With about 300 revs (medium) with a medium Axis also. I drilled up a particle ball by Track called the GP2 Rule and im having alot more success on the synthetic lanes. Then about half way through 2nd game its burned up enough where I just used my Atomic Charge and start carrying alot better with it. Im Avging about 219 with this setup. However on a fresh shot im standing alot more left of 20 about 30 and this ball comes back very hard. If you would like ball layouts on my GP2 let me know I will be glad to tell you.
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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2005, 01:40:38 PM »
I feel the pain, I can't play any f'ing revs at our house or i dont carry, the fluffers on the other had are having a blast. I got ticked one night and just started throwing as hard as i could up the track with almost nothing on the ball, bam 10 in a row, for some reason I had to hold the ball a bit long on the 11th and split city.  the synthetics they have now are not as nice for me as the wood was, but hey I work with it.  I find the only way to carry with revs is to get to the one board at 42ft and watch it rip back and then I hope to god I didn't let up my speed.  Do I like the shots I have, NO. Is there something out there, Yes.  My suggestion is make SURE, you are up the back of the ball, not around the side, then let your ball creep out as far as you are comfortable with and watch the reaction. I'm betting you will be able to move a bit right, and go straiter and screw with the fluffer line.  Try it you might like it
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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2005, 01:43:25 PM »
contrary to the many opinions I see on this post, I don't believe you need a new ball. Here's a thought go out and PRACTICE on the shot. Maybe just once a week.
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Re: How many of you are sick of this...
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2005, 07:59:18 PM »
i also feel ur pain
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