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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Joker-1 on May 10, 2015, 12:55:44 AM

Title: how many of you?
Post by: Joker-1 on May 10, 2015, 12:55:44 AM
How many of you actually use a "light oil ball?" When I refer to light oil, I mean the tropical breezes, the screams/shots, apex ect. I just never seen anyone actually use these light oil balls anymore.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: bowlingman817 on May 10, 2015, 01:09:00 AM
The lightest oil ball I use is the vintage lt-48. I am in the chicagoland area and we actually use oil. I couldn't imagine using a tropical breeze unless I wanted to shoot 10 pins with it all night.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: SVstar34 on May 10, 2015, 01:14:39 AM
How many of you actually use a "light oil ball?" When I refer to light oil, I mean the tropical breezes, the screams/shots, apex ect. I just never seen anyone actually use these light oil balls anymore.

I've been throwing my Ride almost nonstop since I got it. Breezes are really popular at our house for people with slower ball speed.

Our shot has a decent amount of oil. Not a lot, but it's there. We just have a lot of friction and getting a ball to hook on our 41 ft house shot isnt hard
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on May 10, 2015, 04:29:11 AM
I have a Hammer Viral and a Hammer Black/Blue. Love both of them and they are awesome on lighter oil conditions. My wife has a Roto Grip Scream and she can use it only on lighter conditions. It can almost be considered a spare ball when there is oil on the lanes.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: Strider on May 10, 2015, 07:43:09 AM
I don't really own a modern light oil ball, but a few weeks ago I used a Blue Hot Flame on Cheetah.  It was a light oil ball many years ago.  Today it's not much stronger than my XXXL.  It either lost something over the years or today's oils are a lot heavier or more viscous.  I remember it hooking a decent amount on a lighter house shot and now it barely moves.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on May 10, 2015, 08:52:04 AM

I bowl a second shift league, so my Strike King gets regular use.  Occasionally I even pull my Avalanche Pearl Urethane out of the depths of the locker.  It usually saves the night when they're really toasted.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: spencerwatts on May 10, 2015, 08:57:25 AM
I think it depends on what you're shooting on whether league or tournament. This year alone, I've gone to my Brunswick Slingshot (pin-down), Brunswick Avalanche solid (pin-up), and Columbia Black U-dot in various tournament gigs I've participated. (I don't bowl in any leagues.) The earliest I've gone to any of these pieces was game No. 4 out of seven or eight games bowled.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: lilpossum1 on May 10, 2015, 09:59:04 AM
Misfit pearl is my go to ball
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: Brickguy221 on May 10, 2015, 11:40:16 AM
I just had a TAG drilled a week ago. It is rated for light oil, but has shown it will work on more than light oil.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: billdozer on May 10, 2015, 11:47:22 AM
Shout works wonders.  It almost doesn't make the light oil ball list In my opinion, but I never see anything so light that I need anything less than a shout.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: avabob on May 10, 2015, 11:57:56 AM
The Cobalt Vibe and Blue Hammer are integral parts of my arsenal.  I think the trend is more and more to so called light oil balls as younger players learn that a more direct angle to the pocket actually enhances carry compared to going coast to coast
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: lilpossum1 on May 10, 2015, 12:11:42 PM
The only other people I see throwing light oil equipment in my area are beginning bowlers or elderly bowlers without any ball speed. Everyone else seems to throw upper mid level equipment at a minimum. And a few of them complain about how dry the shot is
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: eg bagger on May 10, 2015, 11:25:44 PM
19 MPH Cranker here, Tropical Breeze is my go to ball for almost any shot. Hitting 16 at the line, 7-8 at the arrows, and 5 at the break point. I also roll an old school Blue Hammer and a Motiv Tank, been known to throw my Ice on short sport patterns. If you have enough hand you don't need aggressive gear to strike. I can hook the whole lane but rarely find a need for it. 
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: mainzer on May 11, 2015, 12:10:32 AM
I drill a strong ball weak, and change hand positions. No need for a "dry lane ball"
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: xrayjay on May 11, 2015, 02:37:50 AM
For the last several years (since 2004/5), I've used entry level/light oil balls majority of the time for most of my leagues. Scout, sonic x, jazz, Tropical, slingshot, breeze (x2), misfit (with UFO), and now, Crucial 50-60% of the time. Speed 16.5, <300 revs, low tilt 65-75 rotation, and bowling on medium length light volume. 1st and 2nd shift leagues...

Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: relentless1 on May 11, 2015, 06:41:54 AM
About the only time I use mine is if I'm in a tournament and need it for spare shooting the 6, 9 or 10 pin. I think the last two season my Silver Recon RX1 barely got 5 full games with it.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: scrub49 on May 11, 2015, 07:12:52 AM
Strike King 85 to 90 per cent of the time.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: stc067 on May 11, 2015, 07:14:28 AM
Desert hook gets as much use as anything else in my bag.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: Jesse James on May 11, 2015, 08:58:16 AM
My Strike King and Sonic-X arsenals get the majority of play these days. Occasionally we get to see an actual medium shot versus the light oil and dryish shots that we normally see. When that happens, I just go to a Sonic X drilled fairly strong....works like a charm! I finished my Monday night league season averaging around a 650 set with my Sonic-X's.

My Strike Kings have really hit gold during tournament play this season.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: avabob on May 11, 2015, 11:58:12 AM
Most people do not understand the interaction of friction rev rate and ball speed.  The majority of bowlers who are trying to hook the ball typically encounter burn out more often than not because they are encountering too much friction for their ball speed.  They could carry better with lower friction shells and learning to square up to the lane a bit more.  All house shots are relatively dry outside 10 board, and for the entire last 20 feet.  In addition the modern balls with surface blow up the middles quickly. 

There is a reason that the manufacturers are all coming out with lighter oil balls like the Arson Low Flare, Ride, LT 48, Freeze, and several others.  Most seniors and lower speed bowlers should be looking to use these balls as their go to ball.  If they cant get these to hook as much as they want, they either are looking for too much hook, don't know how to line up, or simply have a seriously weak delivery that cannot be helped with a hook monster.   
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: milorafferty on May 11, 2015, 12:29:53 PM
I use a Motiv Tribal fairly often and then step down to the Ascent. I rarely use a "heavy oil ball" other than on the longer heavy sport shots.
Title: Re: how many of you?
Post by: txbowler on May 11, 2015, 03:05:13 PM
I have 2 tropical breezes drilled with different layouts and have different surfaces on them.  One of them is the first ball out of the bag always.