Author Topic: How to Tilt the ball going up the boards. (Read 1288 times)

bigfish · « **on:** April 13, 2010, 12:44:07 AM »

I am trying to find ways to fix my tilt. When I try to play up the boards i loose all my ball tilt. What are some drills i can do to keep the tilt but also play up the boards. I have a tendency to push the ball to the right when trying to tilt the ball at release when playing up the boards.

For example when i play 15 to 5 my track is about a inch away from my thumb (I am a high tracker).
When i try to play up the 5 board my track will either click the thumb or be right next to it.

I find i cannot get the ball to react very well when playing up the boards when there is a lot of oil on the lanes, because i cannot get any tilt on the ball.

If anyone can help please let me know, any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Edited on 4/13/2010 8:44 AM

charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** April 13, 2010, 02:59:25 PM »

If you're actually talking about axis tilt, please realize that when you played inside, there is a human tendency to cock your wrist to try to get more on the ball to insure it makes the turn. And cocking your wrist adds tilt to your delivery. Your balls are probably drilled for that tilt. When you try to play up the boards, your subconscious does not add that wrist cock and thus less axis tilt. I'd bet if you checked you track when playing outside, it will be a little higher than your normal track.

You could have some tape you to see if this is what is happening. It happens to me, that is why I am suggesting it for a possible reason.

Try using a stronger ball when playing outside, one with more backend that you suspect is really needed. Tilt adds backend because it delays the hook/roll cycle.
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kingpin268 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 13, 2010, 03:51:48 PM »

I''ve recently come into a lot of tilt. Happened when I got my span shortened and readjusted. I went from tracking high to a PAP about 3.75" over and 1" up. Needless to say, I gained a lot of tilt. The best way to explain how to get tilt from my perspective, is to get your fingers up around 8-9 o''clock at the release. Thumb is usually pointing to the right (for righties) for high trackers. From the feel of it, I think my thumb is almost pointing down at release, pushing the fingers way past the 5-6 o''clock which is standard. I still have a lot of hand, but with a lot of tilt and moderate rotation. I went from having to circle the lane, to playing up ten with these release. Ball is more or less spinning down the lane like a top sort of, but without having the fingers doing the spinning in a tradition "spinner release", if you know what I mean. Pretty drastic. Nice when you have to do it, but I can''t for the life of me get back to my high track release.
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charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** April 13, 2010, 07:09:25 PM »

To be blunt, it sounds like the driller changed things for the worse. Have you asked him to restore your old span and pitch specs?
If he is resistant, does he know what the sides effects have been?
It doesn't sound positive to me. Maybe you and he are not communicating properly or, maybe, he needs to give you some detailed coaching to help you to adjust to this new span and pitch set-up.

Maybe you had too much of a high track before, but it seems as if you have too low a track now. it's not terrible, your new low track, but it can be problematic with a lot of tilt. I mean you dont really want to track just next to the thumb hoe and the middle finger, but you don't want so much tilt that you can't handle oil at all. A happy medium is easier to deal with.

Maybe some professional driller will chime here. Maybe I have the picture wrong here.

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kingpin268 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 13, 2010, 07:52:12 PM »

I just had problems with my thumb getting wrecked after 5+games. They shortened it and added a tick right in the thumb. Equipment has never felt better, which I'm happy about. Although I track pretty low now. I can still circle lanes, that's never an impossibility for me. It's just that I've been forced right with my standard release now. Not really a bad thing as most harder shots don't encourage a gutter to gutter type shot anyway.
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snowspike1 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 14, 2010, 12:17:04 AM »

your next time on the lanes (practice) or what ever try to keep your hand under by way of you palm being up at release... like throwing a straight ball.

have your hand totally under the ball kind off like chris barnes hand (with or without ) cupped wrist...

with that the only way to spin the ball would be to death grip it and rotate early and over the top.

try to lay the ball down smooth no thump (dump/drop/ double dribble)... should be nice and semi quiet careful of slide ankle, could be close ( my ankle and bowling balls are very close friends..LOL)...

hope this will help you

Author Topic: How to Tilt the ball going up the boards. (Read 1288 times)

bigfish

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