Author Topic: How would you play this shot? (Read 4269 times)

lilpossum1 · « **on:** October 06, 2016, 10:51:38 PM »

The house I bowl in converted from a squirt bottle and mop to a lane machine this year. The kicker is it is a really old lane machine. The way I understand it, it applies oil with wicks. Anyway, the lanes are old wood lanes, so they have a lot of friction, although they do have a synthetic overlay for the first 15 feet. They are oiled 10 to 10 for 45 feet. The shot does not taper, although I don't know if the volume is higher in the middle. I don't know the volume of the oil, but it isn't very high at all. Urethane is playable for me. I was even throwing plastic tonight. I have to take my ring finger out of the ball to even hope to hold plastic on a 10 pin. Shots leaked right early take off like a bat out of hell. We have above ground ball returns so I can only play fourth arrow out at the deepest on one lane.

lilpossum1 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 07, 2016, 05:58:53 PM »

Apparently nobody would bowl on this shot. Lol

SVstar34 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 07, 2016, 08:19:57 PM »

I would say low flare core, don't go super shiny and keep your angles in front of you. End over end roll will be your friend if there's a lot of friction

lilpossum1 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 07, 2016, 08:57:39 PM »

Storm ride at around 4000?

SVstar34 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 07, 2016, 09:45:34 PM »

Quote from: lilpossum1 on October 07, 2016, 08:57:39 PM

Storm ride at around 4000?

For me that'd be an option. Could even go with 2000 or 3000 surface

lilpossum1 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 08, 2016, 11:51:02 AM »

Just to clarify, this would be for someone speed and rev matched, maybe slightly rev dominate?

SVstar34 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 08, 2016, 11:55:13 AM »

Quote from: lilpossum1 on October 08, 2016, 11:51:02 AM

Just to clarify, this would be for someone speed and rev matched, maybe slightly rev dominate?

Ya. Going with a sanded surface will help the ball bleed some energy and be more controllable

Impending Doom · « **Reply #7 on:** October 08, 2016, 01:07:59 PM »

Quote from: SVstar34 on October 08, 2016, 11:55:13 AM

Quote from: lilpossum1 on October 08, 2016, 11:51:02 AM
Just to clarify, this would be for someone speed and rev matched, maybe slightly rev dominate?

Ya. Going with a sanded surface will help the ball bleed some energy and be more controllable

Sounds like mega over under. I agree with this as well. Try to keep it just inside of 10 until about 40 feet. If you miss right, it will bleed early enough to not go thru the nose but if you miss in, the surface will at least read a bit.

Skip H · « **Reply #8 on:** October 08, 2016, 02:13:08 PM »

How is everyone else playing the shot? What equipment are they using? What are the higher averages in this house? From what you mention I'm going to guess that there aren't a lot of serious bowlers there and if there are they don't average anywhere close to what they do at a more modern house where they are able to use more modern and higher performance equipment. Enjoy bowling there. It sounds very old school. Judge your bowling by your ability to repeat shots and not by score. You may just need to stick with the urethane and plastic.

I doubt that a Storm Ride would be your ticket on this shot just by what you mentioned here. I have one and while it may be considered a dryer lane ball it will still hook and it will hook early if it is as dry as you claim.

lilpossum1 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 08, 2016, 03:07:16 PM »

Quote from: Skip H on October 08, 2016, 02:13:08 PM

How is everyone else playing the shot? What equipment are they using? What are the higher averages in this house? From what you mention I'm going to guess that there aren't a lot of serious bowlers there and if there are they don't average anywhere close to what they do at a more modern house where they are able to use more modern and higher performance equipment. Enjoy bowling there. It sounds very old school. Judge your bowling by your ability to repeat shots and not by score. You may just need to stick with the urethane and plastic.

I doubt that a Storm Ride would be your ticket on this shot just by what you mentioned here. I have one and while it may be considered a dryer lane ball it will still hook and it will hook early if it is as dry as you claim.

Hahaha! I was kinda hoping someone would bring this up! No one is bowling well. As far as I know, there is one person across every league averaging over 210, and he is inhuman. People that average 210-220+ in any other house are sub 200 by quite a few pins. Your average high end bowler is averaging low 190's with a variety of equipment. The other night I was swinging a Maxim 10-15 boards, but that was playing around seeing how much I could move it if I really wanted. I also have a polished pitch black that I could throw. I did throw it one whole league night and left 7 splits from either coming in heavy or light trying to find a shot

Skip H · « **Reply #10 on:** October 08, 2016, 04:00:26 PM »

Sounds like you are doing the best you can on the conditions you are on. If you are in the group of us that has more bowling balls than we have common sense you could try an old pancake weight block reactive or maybe one of the least aggressive two piece balls on the market today. Something like a tropical breeze, strike king, freeze or similar with the pin either on your track or axis to kill any flare further but even then I wouldn't be confident at all that that it would be a better option than you are using now.

Good Luck.

lilpossum1 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2016, 04:32:33 PM »

I have tried the philosophy of playing as deep as possible thinking that it would give me a little bit of miss room on the outside shots because of not reading dry super early. That has been my best look so far, but is fat from being a magic solution

avabob · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2016, 08:59:05 PM »

You have to play them in. The old machine is using low viscosity oil but it is still 45 feet. Being an old wood house the track will be inside 10. I would look for something around 12 to 14 put of the gate with end over end and very controlled out angle
Shot will get left fast.

lilpossum1 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 09, 2016, 11:16:25 AM »

Ahhh I will let you all know how it goes tonight!

lilpossum1 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 09, 2016, 10:29:06 PM »

Yeah that didn't work. Even coming up as straight up the back as I possibly could, I was 15 out to even hope to hit pocket. I could pull that line off with plastic at the end of the night. I think anyway. I was striking and leaving 9 pins. May have strung strikes if liquor wasn't involved

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