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rymacatthedisco

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pin to pap drillings
« on: April 10, 2010, 11:20:21 AM »
looking for some input about pin to pap drillings. I know what it is, but im looking at what ball (types of cores/covers) do you guys think would work best.

Im struggling a lot lately with tons of over/under on the house shots around here and the summer wont be any better with the less oil and heat. so i was recommended to drill a ball pin to pap or 2 inches pin to pap.

I am just not sure what type of ball to do it to, sym/asym/strong core/weak core/etc.

any suggestions would be great! thanks guys
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Re: pin to pap drillings
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2010, 03:59:41 PM »
i am going to use the furious, not the fast. i def agree i think anything pearl would be too over/under and just defeat the purpose.
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Re: pin to pap drillings
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2010, 04:25:29 PM »
O.K., it's a bit late to come to the party, but here is something I did once.

 I took a Granite Gargoyle (yes, I said Granite Gargoyle) and polished it to the hilt. It was a 2-3 pin ball with low topweight. I put the pin about 2 1/2 inches from the pap, below the finger line, with the CG DIRECTLY ON THE PAP, then drilled out the CG, back to 1/2oz sideweight.

 Ball was very smooth and very rolly. It also allowed me to do something I hadn't done in ages, play the track area.

 I've always regretted getting rid of that ball. One of the most predictable balls I've ever thrown.
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rymacatthedisco

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Re: pin to pap drillings
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2010, 10:09:43 PM »
tonight in league a teammate brought out a blue hot he has. the pin is directly on MY pap and the cg is 3 inches to the left (1 inch off grip center) and he had a weight hole to the right of the pin. as usual, the lanes were super over under, so i asked him if i could toss it, 224, 268 playing anywhere from 10 and right...ball was super long and super smooth off the spot.

ultra predictability is what i wanted and this ball was def a great fit for the night. cant wait to drill up something for myself
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Re: pin to pap drillings
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2010, 11:19:36 AM »
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tonight in league a teammate brought out a blue hot he has. the pin is directly on MY pap and the cg is 3 inches to the left (1 inch off grip center) and he had a weight hole to the right of the pin. as usual, the lanes were super over under, so i asked him if i could toss it, 224, 268 playing anywhere from 10 and right...ball was super long and super smooth off the spot.

ultra predictability is what i wanted and this ball was def a great fit for the night. cant wait to drill up something for myself
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Ryan,

Just an FYI, the Blue Hot Flame, if that's the Storm ball you tried, is one of the mildest resins ever made. It had a super mild core, actually 3 pancakes stacked on on top of the other and very little flare. (The Storm data on this ball on their website is all wrong.) I just got hold of my old one, as the friend I gave it to couldn't use it.

It rolls almost just like you experienced EVEN with normal drillings. So be careful about assuming that other balls drilled this way would react similarly. This was a special ball in any case. Very urethane like in its ball reaction, in general. Maximum control.

The only balls I ever knew close to it in reaction were the Lane#1 Bullet & the Dyno-Thane Barrage.
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Re: pin to pap drillings
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2010, 12:54:18 PM »
yea i was trying to look up stuff on that ball, little before my time in what i was using with that ball. im thinking something pretty weak would work decently, rayzr? maybe. or even take something at home that is older and weaker and trying it out to see. the summer is coming and ill be trying different things so it should be fun
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Re: pin to pap drillings
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2010, 01:14:53 PM »
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yea i was trying to look up stuff on that ball, little before my time in what i was using with that ball. im thinking something pretty weak would work decently, rayzr? maybe. or even take something at home that is older and weaker and trying it out to see. the summer is coming and ill be trying different things so it should be fun
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Razyr is a pancake core but with the flippiest coverstock yet put on a pancake core. If you still want a strongish cover on pancake core but a little less flip, try an AMF Smoke.

By the way, are you sure you don't want to try a urethane, to reduce over/under and to play further right/outside?
They do hit pretty darned hard these days and there's a wide choice:
Desperado, Hype, Natural, Liberator, Ogre,
made for everything from true medium oil (Hype) to light oil (Ogre).
FYI all of them have true dynamic cores.
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Re: pin to pap drillings
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2010, 01:21:09 PM »
that was the next option, i have a liberator, but it hooks way to early with the surface, and the core has separated so i dont carry at all with it. but the ogre seems like the way to go with urethane. i dont like sanded urethane, they hook early enough on their own, so why put surface on them to hook earlier??? idk, thats my thought on it. but the ogre is shiny (maybe a pearl like the blue slate was? idk) so thats another option to look into
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