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jitter1127

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Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« on: March 11, 2015, 11:06:11 PM »
From what I can tell this is a short pattern, but it seems like a heavy volume of oil...I am low revs, medium ball speed, and down and in player typically.  Currently I am throwing a Track 706A and 505C2.  I have a Hammer no mercy beat'n as well, but it does not fit me well anymore. 

This seems to be the closest i can find on the Kegel site
http://www.kegel.net/V3/PatternLibraryPatternGraph.aspx?ID=824&VIEW=COM

but here is a pic of the actual pattern

I apologize for the quality, but its somewhat readable

 

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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2015, 03:49:33 AM »
If you are using the 31 rule (which is subtract 31 from the total distance) this is a good way to start however it is not the only way to attack the pattern.  I would suggest picking a target as far right as the 1 board and start with your feet as far right as you can to go straight.  With each practice shot move two boards left keeping your eyes on the same target to see how far you can go before having to move your eyes.  Also another key to success on the pattern could be bowling ball surface you can go as low as 500 or as high as 4000 depends on your style and roll.

Hope this helps a little
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Dave81644

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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2015, 06:28:35 AM »
the volume of a pattern = how strong of a ball to use
the length of the pattern dictates where to play

if you saw the USBC kick-off video for this years 2015 nationals tournament, Chris Barnes had some tips about where to play those lanes
he uses the -31 rule and them 3/4 of that
37' pattern minus 31 = 6 board for breakpoint, by using Barnes 3/4 rule, it puts the breakpoint at 4 or 5 board

this is all just a suggestion, once you get there and get on the pattern is when you need to decide where to play and what ball to use based on a few other factors
who else is on the pair with you and what ball(s) they are using
what equipment and surfaces you have available

in the end, your shotmaking will make the difference, how you can repeat shots and if you make your spares

good luck

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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2015, 09:41:08 AM »
Also, the topography of the lanes will play a part in where you play as well. Even though the pattern may look lile your breakpoint should 4-6 board, it may need to be further in if the track area of this house is excessivly worn. Use this a guide, and then go with what the lanes tell you during practice.
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jitter1127

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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2015, 10:09:17 AM »
the volume of a pattern = how strong of a ball to use
the length of the pattern dictates where to play

if you saw the USBC kick-off video for this years 2015 nationals tournament, Chris Barnes had some tips about where to play those lanes
he uses the -31 rule and them 3/4 of that
37' pattern minus 31 = 6 board for breakpoint, by using Barnes 3/4 rule, it puts the breakpoint at 4 or 5 board

this is all just a suggestion, once you get there and get on the pattern is when you need to decide where to play and what ball to use based on a few other factors
who else is on the pair with you and what ball(s) they are using
what equipment and surfaces you have available

in the end, your shotmaking will make the difference, how you can repeat shots and if you make your spares

good luck

The volume is 30.85ul.  Would that be considered a heavy or medium volume.

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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2015, 11:23:22 AM »
I am simplifying the usual standard message:

Short (37 and less) - usually play outside part of lane
Medium (38-42) - could be any part of lane
Long - (43 and longer) usually play inside part of lane


However 2 things, lane topography and lane house shot memory, are major factors that may make you play out of the areas described above.

Please see these 2 Kegel articles on lane play:
http://www.kegel.net/V3/ArticleDetails.aspx?ID=46
http://www.kegel.net/V3/ArticleDetails.aspx?ID=2
 
Specifically speaking to that pattern, at 37 feet and heavy, the shot looks tricky from the graph.  With that volume my bet is that it will feel like a medium length pattern.  However, it is SUPER flat in the middle - there should not be any hold there.  Without knowing the lane surface or topography, I would look to start outside with whatever equipment works out there and try to stay outside by balling down. 

As already said though, let the lanes be your guide.  Outside might not be the best option based on topography and/or house shot memory. Be prepared to blow up Plan A - but don't be fooled either.  Pay attention to where bowlers are having success and see if that works for your game too.

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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2015, 11:33:49 AM »
Looks like only 2 loads 2 to 2.  Despite high volume, there should be some bump outside of 5 board.  Not an easy pattern for guys who want to hook the lane, but very playable if you can get out around 5 and play direct ( think Norm Duke )

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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2015, 05:42:06 PM »
30 ul is a high volume, unless, like said above
there is underlying friction
it may start out slick and then people pullout dull equipment, and then its really a mess

definitely want to try and play straighter up front, use something rolly, arcing and predictable

jitter1127

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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2015, 10:27:40 PM »
My 505c2 is more predictable and arcing.  It is not made for heavy oil though.  Do you think I should take it down to 1000 grit and if so do you think that is enough ball and wont burn up?

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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2015, 06:31:42 AM »
Since the pattern is shorter, you will want a ball that does NOT react quickly to friction = controlled arc from the outside.  Maybe a pin down solid...just my 2 cents.
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Dave81644

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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2015, 07:05:58 AM »
if you take it to 1000 and it turns out to be to dull once you get there, it goes in the bag and is useless, better off going to lane to shiny and adjust by hand at lanes if need be

i might do 1000 dull + some polish, it would have some shine to get through heads and then still some teeth under that.

rarely, would anyone use a 1000 dull for all 3 games, maybe use that to get started and once it starts to burn up, switch to some thing else

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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2015, 08:34:56 AM »
Jitter,

If you're typically down and in on a house shot, you will want a ball with surface on this pattern.

avabob

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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2015, 01:01:15 PM »
Not sure why everyone wants to dull something up for heavy oil.  Anyone ever hear of taking what the lane gives you, squaring up, and getting the  ball in a roll. 


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Re: Advice On This Pattern...(Composite View Attached)
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2015, 02:15:10 PM »
Avabob, read my earlier comments...