That all depends on your thumb buddy.
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There is a proper lateral pitch for your thumb.

In general if when you grab a coke bottle with your bowling hand if your thumb points to your index finger 1/8 lateral left is correct for a righthander.

If instead it points to your middle or ringfinger, pitches like 1/8 right or 1/4 right are correct for you!

This is from a famous old drilling guru named Bill Taylor.

The PROPER angle for YOUR thumb allows your thumb to come out without catching the sides of the hole leading to a clean high rev release!  This is how you will get hook!

REgards,

Luckylefty

Lucky I have a question for you.

When you grab the coke can is your hand supposed to lie completely flat on the can prior to grabbing it or is the heel of the hand allowed to stay off the can?

It makes a big difference as to where ones thumb points.

I remember some notes that also takes into account short thumbs and flexibility issues as well.

Like to hear your comments on them
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Lucky - One of the reasons why I stated this is I have been experimenting with pitches like you forever.  I watch bowlers from time to time and see how they all look for the right feel.  I like to have my hand very flat on the ball since I have short fingers and thick hands. Grabbing a coke bottle I can go from 1/4 palm to 1/4 away depending if my heel touches.  I found that it all depends how someone likes to hold the ball which also helps determine lateral pitch.  

Onto a finger pitch question for you.  If you take someones hand and place it flat on the counter and have their second finger joints bend 90 degrees over the edge look to see which way the fingers point.  I have found in my experience that those that point straight down have a tendency to have higher tracks and those that point toward the thumb have lower tracks.  Shifting finger pitches lateral will help raise and lower tracks as well.

I don't know if you have observed this but check it out and tell what you find since you happen to drill more balls then I.
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Just took a look at my old Bill Taylor book.

It looks like he just grabs bottle naturally.

Heel is a little off bottle.  I grab a bottle quickly and naturally and it feels like my fingers are perpindicular to the surface of the bottle.

If I grab unnaturally my heel goes on the bottle and my fingers feel like they are pointing vertically up a little.   Not the way my 2 year old son grabs a glass full of water.  He grabs a heavy full glass of water as described above fingers horizontal to the ground so that it is easy to hold and steady the glass(coke bottle).

This gives me the measurement discussed between my middle and ring finger.

I agree with the well written and accurate pin chaser above!

Grips for people are based on a certain range.
Me with my lateral pointing where it does is very uncomfortable with 0 or lateral out.  My good friend who originally drilled for me.  Has his thumb in this lateral test point at his space betwee his index and middle finger.

For him to bowl with 1/8 lateral out or 0 or 1/8 lateral under palm is a range he is very comfortable.  (He actually claims this stuff doesn't matter).

For me my base position is 1/4 lateral under.  I'm comfortable from about 1/16 lateral under palm to 3/8 under palm.  My midpoint of my comfort range is different.

Find your midpoint with these tests etc from above and then make tweaks to adjust fit and roll as needed.

I actually at this point wanted to say thank you to the King!  Yes King of the mill for taking almost 2 hours of the last couple of days to study MY particular hand over the web and to recommend and explain some tweaks for me.

He is an extremely knowledgeable source who is very generous with his time!

I hope to report back with some great results after his studied help.  The changes we are making are quite significant I think.  It's time I did somethin again!

REgards,

Luckylefty
Finger pitches, spans, thumb pitches, pitch rolls, special oval techniques.
Old drilling theories, new drilling theories, ball dynamics.  I thought I knew a few things!  This man however, is truly THE King!