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HamPster

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I HATE Turbo 2-1 Slugs.
« on: December 10, 2003, 11:59:10 PM »
I don't know how many times those stupid things have gotten stuck halfway down on me.  They're supposed to fit in a 1 1/4th inch hole, plainly advertised by the "1 1/4th" label on the top of the slug.  They don't go in without a fight.  And of course they go in just halfway, then you have to beat on them with a hammer, then the stupid thing splits in half, then you have to cut it off and drill it out, and try it AGAIN.  The slugs we make go in tough, but they always go in on the first try and stay in, and they don't even have vent slits.  Of course if I sand the hole out to make it bigger before jamming the slug in, it goes in easier, but it creates extra work and more importantly extra time to take it off the press, hammer it in, put it back on the press, line it up again, and then go for it, and that's assuming the slug doesn't crack and I don't have to drill it out and replace it.  Sometimes that extra 10 minutes is just too much when there are customers in the shop that either want something or feel the need to ask about every single ball on the wall and end up taking at least a half hour of your time, just to say "thanks" and walk out the door.  I like how the Turbo's feel, but man they're a waste of time, effort, material, and half a dozen other things.
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Re: I HATE Turbo 2-1 Slugs.
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2003, 06:04:59 PM »
I found the 1 3/8 slugs to go in no problem. i just usually lightly sand the slides of the slug so the glue will bond better. I did have a few problems with them getting stuck half way in. it happens occasionally.the best thing i can suggest is there is a slower drying glue, called Slo-gap. we normally use Zap-a-gap. i can try to find the number for the company or the name.

Also i've been using the slugs from tenth frame and they don't seem quite as good as turbo's.
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HamPster

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Re: I HATE Turbo 2-1 Slugs.
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2003, 07:27:34 PM »
Yeah, I don't generally have any problems with the 1 3/8ths slugs.  It's not even the glue either, the slug just flat out won't go very far into the hole.  It's not the bit, cause our slugs that come out of our 1 1/4th inch mold go in a little snug, but it's not super hard to put them in.  But man they're a problem.  What's worse are the vinyl inserts, you can't find a bit that gets them in there decently at all.
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Re: I HATE Turbo 2-1 Slugs.
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2003, 08:45:27 PM »
Hamster, if you would quit stopping and staring at the CPL's when the slug is only half way down in the hole, you could get it in easy before the glue sets up.  
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Re: I HATE Turbo 2-1 Slugs.
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2004, 11:49:31 PM »
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maybe you don't know what you are doing? maybe your 1 1/4 bit is smaller than 1 1/4  
   
 


Amen....That's what I am thinking too because my pro shop doesn't seem to have that much trouble with them. Also, my proshop operator (Anne Marie Duggan)doesn't hammer them in. She simply takes the bit out of the drill press and presses the slugs in with a 1 3/8" slug. They slide right in much easier and faster than using a hammer plus the ball remains in the correct position to drill the thumb hole and not get knocked out of alignment from the hammering.
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Re: I HATE Turbo 2-1 Slugs.
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2004, 06:01:05 AM »
Man, talk about digging up a topic.  We don't hammer them in either, we do the same thing Anne Marie does.  We also had to buy a new bit that's slightly larger than 1 1/4th to get the Turbos to fit.  There's another couple pro shop guys I know of that have had the same problem.  We only used to hammer them in when we had to.  Lol, I don't like resetting the pitches and everything either.  Plus it makes it easier to cut off the top of the slug when the thumbhole is already drilled.  And yes, Wicked, you little donkeyhole, I know exactly what I'm doing.  I happen to be quite proficient at drilling, good enough that I'm not bragging, I'm being modest.  If the bit says 1 1/4th and the slug says it's for 1 1/4th inch holes, there's either something wrong with the bit or the slug, and we know it's not the bit because we make our own slugs also, and the mold makes 1 1/4th inch slugs which fit just fine into the holes we drill with our regular 1 1/4th inch bit.
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Re: I HATE Turbo 2-1 Slugs.
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2004, 08:32:38 AM »
I would check the bit because I've been using the Turbo Urethane slugs for over 10 years and never had a problem and this is with dozens of shops and bits.  Some were a little tight, some were loose.  There are several reasons-  manufactoring tolerances for the bits and slugs, worn bits, ball shaking in the press when drilling, etc.  For example, I bought a brand new 31/32" bit to use since that's the most commonly used bit and gets worn down quickly.  It drills slightly bigger than the used one that's in the shop now.  It's possible that your molds are slightly small and so is your bit.  

If you have a milling machine and you know the slugs are tight, you can easily do a adjust a few .001 and go back in to open the hole up.  Only adds probably less than a minute.
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Re: I HATE Turbo 2-1 Slugs.
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2004, 09:26:47 AM »
Holy topic bump batman!!!

Crap, this was a year ago!!
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