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LuckyLefty

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I like to lock topics....but I am for free speech!
« on: July 24, 2006, 08:29:40 AM »
Contradictory?

Locking right after a long winded post...maybe a good way to get the last word in.

And I've been told that PS's were good for that.

Regarding Lane#1.  I think an important thing for bowlers to understand is that in most technique sports...great technique is learned under easier conditions.
It makes it easier to focus on the technique instead of the target!

If one starts bowling too early on sport conditions and other difficult patterns particularly before the technique is fully developed it leads to an impediment to achieving the best technique possible!

A very good friend of mine said it so well!

When I feel like I have 3 boards on which to strike...I get so loose I can hit 1!  When I feel that I only have one board to hit...I'm lucky to hit 3!".  He averaged 236 in a local league with a 10 year old pair of shoes and an 8 year old single ball arsenal!

Free swing versus tight swing!

One of the comments Richie Sposato also related during a recent presentation he gave was that there should be a reward for developing a powerful release.

OF course right after that he went out and tore up a sport shot that was trickin us ALL..until he showed us how to do it...combining his powerful release with plastic and a pin axis drilling to really WOW the whole crowd of mostly favorable sport shot proponents assembled!

REgards,

Luckylefty

This same thought I believe applies to the golf swing!

 


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Edited on 7/25/2006 9:49 AM
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Re: I like to lock topics....but I am for free speech!
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2006, 03:07:43 PM »
To answer the original question, locking topics is NOT contradictory to free speech.  The reason that only (other than admins) the topic initiator can lock a topic is that he/she has a proprietary interest in said topic.  Should comments posted not be responsive to the original topic then the originator may feel justified in locking the topic.  Should comments become rude, insulting or meaningless then the proprietor may feel justified in locking a topic.  For example if I were to have posted

"The rolling hills of the palouse provide a calming influence on library patrons, and in addition give Lucky Lefty a free range to roam while spouting insanely stupid commentary about the shape of pigeon's feet"

LL would certainly be justified in locking the topic, and/or reposting.  


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LuckyLefty

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Re: I like to lock topics....but I am for free speech!
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2006, 03:49:18 PM »
I have rethought my statement a little bit and realized that AChappy attempts most of the time to be a classy individual.

There are several aspects to this post.
1) there was a previous post about Lane#1 being silly for not encouraging sport bowling.  I passed on the recent comments of Richie Sposato in that post and a few other comments came in and the guy closed it!
2)I do get snippy...there are more and more jerks on this site...I don't necessarily think AC Chappy is one of em!
3)I agreed with him on the Fair versus easy for training bowlers...I actually do believe that while there are few that could assist me with golf swing techniques...I'm sure he is up there in that departnment in bowling from what I hear(he may be a professional golfer also).  He may be able to hit a golf ball better than me and from what I understand Mo Norman could!
4)Regarding the quesion of Fair(ie an analgous condition to a headwind in golf...) is that a blended top hat, or a christmas tree?  I am interested in what is the opinion of ACHAPPY and others for the analgous condition in bowling that replicates a wind in face shot.
5) recently when attending the Junior gold program tournament.  I observed from a distance some incredible games!  Let me say the number covered about 15 to 20 percent of the assembled bowlers!  I actually believed these bowlers so had it that they were learning.  Many other bowlers I saw were frankly in way over their head with techniques that maybe were still in the developmental phases.
My thought when watching developing bowlers on very tough shots is much like my thoughts on watching developing golfers on US open conditions....more torture going on than learning.  I have always believed in developing success slowly and steadily building from an easy condition base and ...then pushing forward to the breaking point ...stepping back and then forging farther ahead.  Like a baby learning to walk!  We typically don't start him at the top of the stairs!  He may learn something but it WILL be painful!

6) Again my thougts on practicing with the wind at ones back is similar to the esteemed HAWK!  Even for the higher level player it almost encourages a coming over the top motion.  Yes the player with established technique can learn the draw and hold into this wind...the novice when trying to learn on this pattern can speed his results by about 4 times(not just 2) by practicing into the other direction wind!(walk to the end of the range...just like the HAWK!).  SO I believe it is with the proper hook for the novice to intermediate bowler...a reverse block makes it hard...a crown/christmas tree makes it easy.  Much as the wind is to friction for golf so is dry to the wind for bowling.  An aid in building success patterns.

Put the baby on the top of the stairs?  Or put him on the flat and let him build success!  In advance to many who don't get that parallel...apologies for that analogy!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS Twohandman...thank you for the common sense comments!  Another thing that makes common sense to me is TWO HANDED BOWLING!


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Edited on 7/26/2006 3:47 PM
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Re: I like to lock topics....but I am for free speech!
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2006, 09:47:19 PM »
I missed the thread regarding Lane #1 so this thread topic was a little off to me.  I'm not sure which direction that thread was going.  I apologize for that.

LOL! Me a professional golfer???  I wish I'm a good golfer.  I'm self taught and have become very serious the past several years.  Definately not in the league of some of the Div I college guys and long time scratch players that play the tournaments around here.  But I've developed an obsession with the game and equipment as deep as bowling.  This is the best year I've had in terms of ball striking and overall scoring.  Part of that has been settling on one set of equipment and just practicing.  But I was able to develop techniques regardless of the wind or weather.  Ironically, the day I started to learn how to draw the ball, it was at a range with 15-20MPH winds left to right and that was by not slicing it 50 yards LOL.

I do agree that it's much easier to develope technique on easier conditions.  You eliminate a variable and that's tension.  I guess where we differ is is this a self taught process or is there another pair of eyes?  If self taught, then it's better to eliminate as many variables as possible.  But if you have a teacher who has the eyes, I believe he can achieve the same results "teaching into the wind".  I believe it can be achieved on a flat condition, assuming the surface is such where inconsistant reactions are not created.

I understand that there are posters who you may have a negative history.  But this forum would be much better if we all learned to debate topics without attacking each other.  There were lots of posters (Constantine, Precision, KOTM, Pchee, tenpinspro, BrunsRich, BrunsRick, etc) on here that have stopped or have limited posting because of the direction the forum has headed.  I actually miss reading posts from them.  We all have experiences and can learn from each other if the topic is discussed civilly.  The forum and all members will benefit.



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Re: I like to lock topics....but I am for free speech!
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2006, 09:55:32 PM »
achappy,

I agree with you 100%.  I do not think attacking people is the best way to solve anything.  People have their opinions and unfortunately, we are going to disagree at times.  That is human nature.  

Lets face it.  If we were half the golfer compared to being a bowler, would we be here?  
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LuckyLefty

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Re: I like to lock topics....but I am for free speech!
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2006, 11:16:25 AM »
A great question regarding golf and proficiency is...

Have you ever hit 18 greens in regulation?

An answer I am proud to give is many(not pro tour courses)!

Another question may be have you ever 18 greens in regulation and hit all the par 5s in two....I am happy to reply...not many...but some!
I am UNhappy to reply to ...when you hit 18 greens in regulation and all the par5s in two were you a ton under par...UNFORTUNATELY...not that much...well except for a few times!!  Wiggler!
I putt like Sergio Garcia while he is in contention!

That my friend is why I am on this forum!

I must get back in shape for it(about 3 weeks on the range, righty by the way!) but I have seriously considered entering "America's best driver" contest and like to think I could contend.  (It is a contest that combines both distance and accuracy(narrower fairway than the National long drive format) for several drives).  I have only seen it contested once on TV!  For guys a little shorter than the 370 to 400 yard boomers of the National Long drive contest but quite a bit straighter.

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS unless Dan Pohl enters and then I surrender!  I hope that retired guy Jodie Mudd doesn't decide to come out either!  Yeah...no former PGA tour winners!


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Edited on 7/27/2006 11:12 AM
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